Report: Glenn Robinson III plans to declare for NBA Draft

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Michigan 73, Tennessee 71-20Jake Fischer of Slam Magazine and the Boston Globe is reporting that Michigan sophomore Glenn Robinson III has signed with an agent and will declare for the NBA Draft this week.

CBS Sports’ Gary Parrish reported that “Robinson hasn’t informed the Michigan staff of his intentions yet” and is supposed to meet with the Wolverine coaches this week.

Robinson is projected as a late first or early second-round draft pick and averaged 13.1 points and 4.4 rebounds per game last season.

ESPN reported last week that fellow sophomore Nik Stauskas would enter the draft, but he denied the reports. Mitch McGary submitted his name to the NBA Undergraduate Advisory Council but has yet to make his NBA decision after missing most of his sophomore year with back surgery. (Photo: Dustin Johnston)

  • guestavo

    Justin Martin needs to be dialed up ASAP.

  • bballkdp

    Wish him the best but no way no how he should be going! I guess you can look at Robinson’s upside being there but Hardaway didnt even come out until after his junior year. Just my opinion but he needed 1 more year. Good luck GR3

    • Chezaroo

      I remember watching that year long audition by Manny Harris ( at the teams expense ) for the NBA when he came back, and it wasn’t pretty. Completely dominated the ball to try and showcase his “supposed” skill set. If you don’t want to be here, move on.

      • gpsimms

        Keep in mind that team had no point guard (freshman Darius posted an ORtng of 88), and stu and zack each shot under 33% that year from 3.

        I always get defensive when people try to blame Manny for his rough junior year. He played the best he could on a team that was *wildly* overrated coming into the year. People do not realize what a miracle Beilein pulled getting that team to the tournament the year before.

        Manny posted a top 150 assist rate on a team where the only three players with efg% above 50 were Peedi, Gibson, and Vogrich (and Gibson & Vogrich played 24 and 12 percent of the minutes respectively). Tough to call him a ballhog when his teammates were so deficient offensively.

        • Chezaroo

          Respect your opinion as always, but that whole season was Manny trying to show the NBA scouts that he ” could put it on the floor.” He couldn’t. He had so many selfish turnovers that were totally unnecessary when Peedi was killing it down low. It was difficult to watch for a season ticket holder, even in the bad times. Point being, he wanted to leave the year previous ( diluted opinion of himself ) but wasn’t wanted. So he selfishly tried to enhance his supposed desirability by dominating the ball to the detriment of that team. Sure there was less talent, but that doesn’t excuse the “me first attitude.” It was blatantly obvious to everybody in my section that year. But hey, how’d it work out for him?

          • GentlemanScholar

            Blatantly obvious? I was a season ticketholder that year and I wouldn’t say it was “blatantly obvious” that he was auditioning for the pros. Did he try to play hero ball too much at times? Yes. Were the surrounding pieces of the team mediocre at best? Yes. Nonetheless, neither you nor I nor anyone in your section knew his motives for playing the way he did. He was a poor ball handler who tried to take his opponents off the dribble. I’d guess that he was trying to win ball games and not simply show the scouts that he was an NBA type player.

          • Chezaroo

            Respect your opinion, I have a different viewpoint.

          • gpsimms

            I guess I also respect your opinion, though it is pretty difficult to respect your argument. I tried to defend my position with facts and stats, your position was only defended with your penetrating vision deep into Manny Harris’ heart.

            “Me first” Manny Harris *shared* his team MVP award at the banquet with his best friend, Peedi. Sounds like a real selfish kid to me.

            As for your argument about putting it on the floor. Yeah, Manny was never the best ball handler. But he was a worse shooter. Manny going to the rack was the best thing that team had going for it.

            Here is proof you are wrong:

            Your argument that Manny became selfish/terrible as a junior implies that you think had he played ‘team basketball’ as he did his sophomore year Michigan would have been better off.

            However, Manny took *less* shots as a junior than he did as a sophomore. He also had less turnovers. He also improved his eFG%. So, as a junior, he took *less* and *better* shots. His assist rate did drop, but as I mentioned before that is completely explained by Novak & Stu’s drop in 3pt%, the loss of CJ Lee, , LLP, Kelvin Grady & David Merritt who all shot above or 34% from 3. In Manny’s junior year, only Vogrich shot above 34% from three, and he only had 28 attempts all season.

            Finally, as for him not giving Peedi the ball enough. Peedi had a top 40 shot rate in the country. Only 6 bigs in the entire country took more shots than Peedi. It would have been difficult to have him shooting any more than he already was.

            Statistically, Manny was just about the exact same player his junior year as he was before. His TO% dropped, and his shooting improved. His A% dropped due to bad shooting on the team. I am *very* confident that your impression of Manny’s attitude is colored by what was a disappointing season for everyone, and your desire to blame what you thought could have been a promising year on a team’s star player. The real issue is we lost a lot of depth guys between Lee, Merritt, LLP, etc, and Stu and Zack were just not quite ready to be such major minute players.

            Again, anyone is entitled to the opinion Manny was a selfish player, but if you are going to suggest that he *was not* selfish prior to his Junior year when he became selfish, then it is clear that your perception has been colored by the results in the W-L column.

          • Boom hit the nail on the head.

          • gpsimms

            Ultimate internet validation! Ha. Seriously, I feel like the only reason I even get on the internet anymore is to defend poor Manny from ‘the haters.’ Brian Cook *still* mentions what a terrible person Manny was from time to time, and it drives me nuts. It’s seriously just about the only time I comment on mgoblog when he takes a completely out of left field shot at Manny Harris’ junior year.

          • There were a lot of problems with that team.. and Manny deserves some of the blame. But you can’t peg the whole season on Manny IMO.

          • Chezaroo

            That was the year JB put his stamp on UM basketball forever. The most important quality that you can bring to the table ” is the desire to be a good teammate.” The Team , The Team, The Team.

          • Chezaroo

            Respect your opinion, but don’t forget how many times JB suspended Manny for what constitutes conduct detrimental to the team. Had close friends with kids on that roster that were constantly referencing his attitude, and his self promotion as the only NBA player on the team. Stats don’t belie chemistry, or the desire to be a good teammate. But times are different now, wholeheartedly support the right to your opinion though. It isn’t a statistics issue for me however. Hope he gets his game together and finds his way back into the league, or comes back and gets his degree. It is my hope that all UM athletes succeed in their chosen profession, either on the court or off.

  • Chezaroo

    When your head and heart are in the NBA, then you are doing yourself and your school a favor by leaving. Must be difficult to see Trey and Tim get some “cheese” and still be in class. So much for draft projections and improving your skills. Still whole hearted my believe Mitch will be drafted late in round one, Glen will have to show out in workouts to make the first round, but hey Tim did it! Good luck to all!

  • JVS

    Hope its not true, but realize it 99% is. Probably could afford his loss more than others given depth available. Would be shocked if his combine didn’t get him up into the first a la THJr. Wish him all the best.

  • Webbdog

    He will indeed Blow up in the Pre Draft Workouts/Combine like Hardaway Jr. and He will go 1st round.

    • isiah sanders

      Difference was Hardaway was projected a 1st rd. pick and a Junior. There was even teams in the lotto that really liked him. Robinson is projected as a 2nd rd. pick, no higher and he’s a Sophomore coming out in a loaded draft class. He ill be a good NBA player down the road. Ton of potential, but I sure as heck didn’t see an NBA player on the court this past season.

      • geoffclarke

        GRIII will have to shoot a *ton* of threes between now and the camps.

      • jkuofm27

        I hate saying negative things about guys I really like, but I agree. He disappeared way too often on a team that really needed him to step up. His college range three point shot was suspect for much of the year and so moving him back a few feet is a scary prospect. I think he “can” do it, but it is mostly projection with out a lot of proof. At 6’6″ without being a great rebounder does that make him a 2 in the NBA? If so, I think that lowers his value even more.

        • Chris De Sana

          Great point, THjr rarely disappeared in big games, he may have struggled but he never stopped asking for the ball.

          • GentlemanScholar

            THjr definitely disappeared during some games as a junior. I have fond memories of him as a player, but there were definitely times when you were wondering which player would take the court.

      • Webbdog

        Hardaway wasnt projected as a 1st round pick when he announced his decision to go pro. He worked himself into a 1st round pick.

    • Chris De Sana

      You are making the huge assumption that GR3 will shoot the lights out in his workouts.

      • Webbdog

        No. I know what NBA teams look for. Go back in past drafts and see how Terrence Ross and Jeff Green rose into the lottery as Top 10 picks after not having the greatest College careers. Not that he wont go and shoot the lights out, I believe he will do just that.

        • Chris De Sana

          Your comparison to Jeff Green’s career at Georgetown is laughable and not even worthy of debate.

          • Webbdog

            I disagree.

          • Webbdog

            I disagree!! Ha Ha.. And To up the Ante, I Will do you one Better, How about we Throw Victor Oladipo College Career Out There Sir!!! To the Corner you go, grab this Cap on the Way!!!

          • Chris De Sana

            OK I will play along…… lets take Victor and the year he declared and how the basketball world looked at his skill set.
            -End of his Jr year he ranked 4th in the country from the field the highest in almost 20 years for a guard.
            -Wooden Award Finalist
            -Sporting News Player of the Year
            -Co Defensive Player of the Year
            -First Team All American by multiple publications
            -Unanimous All Big Ten
            -Big Ten Defensive Player of the Year
            -Considered a top ten pick by both Draft Express and NBADraft.Net
            So how does that compare to GR3 last year? Like I said laughable and not worthy of a debate.

          • Webbdog

            Again college Career GRIII projects greater than Oladipo. I could see GRIII surpassing all of those achievements easily had he stayed and played his Jr year. Its indeed Debatable with each player I named. You will see once the Draft takes place. We will definitely know if he is invited to the Green Room.

          • Chris De Sana

            You are changing the debate my friend, you made the comment “not having the greatest college career”. My point is not that GR3 will not make it or even be a great pro just that he has a lot of work to do to make it into the lottery. The players I made the comparison above certainly had a better college career and in both cases were already in the lottery when they declared.

          • Chris De Sana

            Just wondering if you are re-thinking your Oladipo comparison?

          • Webbdog

            Not at all.

          • Chris De Sana

            Jeff Green
            -2007 Big East Player of the Year
            -2nd & 3rd Team All American depending on publication
            -Big East Tournament MVP
            -And projected as a lottery pick from the moment he declared

  • sp1ms

    Good for him, if this is true. I personally think he’d be well-served long-term to stay and star next year, but hard to turn down the opportunity at the dream and the cash. Good luck, Glenn.

    Also, I’ve seen about 5 too many reactions along the lines of: “Stauskas and Glenn leaving turns Michigan from contender to bubble.” Fuck outta here with that. LeVert is a future lottery pick, and Walton and Irvin were top 40 recruits who just (understandably) weren’t used much. McGary coming back would just be the cherry on top of an already-solid roster. Trust in Beilein, Go Blue.

    • JVS

      Completely agreed. People get into “sky is falling” way too easily, this year as well at 6-4. How can someone say that he didn’t play well and underachieved all year, but then when he leaves we are so much worse off.

      Will always be a challenge to get players into their new roles, and with a tough out of conf schedule, that could leave a few scars, but the word bubble is laughable. Coach B knows!

    • Patootie

      If McGary leaves along with GRIII, our front court is completely depleted if we don’t take into consideration a couple of unestablished freshman.

    • mistersuits

      Agree here with Patootie, once Mitch leaves and Horford is already gone – Michigan can’t compete with the likes of Wisconsin. Frank Kaminsky versus Max or a freshman for the whole game? Yikes.

      But at least they’d expect to be a tournament team with a reasonable shot at the second weekend.

      • sp1ms

        That’s a far shout from “bubble”, so I can agree.

    • mountain52

      Completely agree! The sky is NOT falling. If Nik, Glenn, and Mitch all leave we are still a very good team that will make the tournament. Trust in the program. Did anyone foresee Nik and Caris stepping up like they did this year? Derrick and Zak will do the same next year, not to mention we have Donnal and Chatman who will be in the rotation if not starting. Caris next year will be 1st team All American. We are in excellent hands.

  • Dustin Stone

    BLAH!!! Was praying for the remote chance this group would pull a Florida and get the band back together

    • mistersuits

      Same here. That was really the only way any of the three were going to have a chance at returning for a junior year.

  • Gordon

    Too bad, but he’s probably the least important of the three for Michigan. I will miss his highlight plays, but his stats are all replaceable with what remains on the roster.

    As for Glen, he supposedly stayed so he could prove that he can play the 3. That didn’t work out for him, and there’s no real reason to think next year would be any different. I can definitely understand the decision.

    • guestavo

      “the least important of the three for Michigan”

      nope that was Stauskas.

      • lol.

        • guestavo

          PnR and shooting are known qualities. People want to say GR3 didn’t defend well then just wait.

          • Just silly to say that Stauskas, one of the top three or four offensive players in the country, was the least important of the bunch.

          • JVS

            Sorry, yeah thats a bit hard to follow. Team with only mitch back > team with only Nik back > team with only glenn back

          • guestavo

            Don’t buy that one bit.

          • guestavo

            Team with only mitch back = great o, good D

            team with only Nik back = great O, HORRENDOUS D (maybe worst in JB era)

            team with only glenn back= great o, adequate D

          • gpsimms

            last year’s team already was the worst defense in the Beilein era. Of course, I understand the defense can *always* get worse, but I think your position is a pretty difficult one to defend.

            We do have good players waiting to step in at the 3, but Stauskas is one of the most talented offensive players I have ever watched. Glenn, on the other hand, played adequate defense and was a solid offensive role player. Unless you are of the opinion that Glenn was on track to have a breakout offensive year, it is hard to argue that his return would bring more to the team than Nik’s.

            I am certainly not of the opinion that Glenn was ever going to be more than a role player offensively.

          • guestavo

            No, I just think a top offense is guaranteed and last years team was exposed at times because of that defense.

          • gpsimms

            Exposed to the tune of B1G champs by 3 games, one shot from final four, top 10 finish, I agree.

            Edit: sorry should not have replied so quick, and read more closely. I do agree it’s likely that our offense is top tier almost no matter what for the near future.

          • guestavo

            Which means exactly what in this sense? The losses came from very evident reasons.

          • guestavo

            Not when you consider the roster.

          • Mitch is obviously the most important when you consider the roster.

            Stauskas was the most important to last year’s team.

            Robinson’s replacement will be the highest-rated player in the incoming class.

          • guestavo

            Depends on how Chatman was used. Could easily project to Nik’s spot.

          • BlueRev

            Don’t mean to gang up on you (as if you care), but I am shocked anyone thinks any freshman could easily project to Nik’s spot (assuming you meant Nik S) let alone a close follower of the team. Yes, his defense was average at best, but offensively he’s top 5 UM players I’ve watched for over 30 years: Rice, Webber, Howard, Nik, Burke. I’d take Jalen because of overall game as well as Grant near Trey. I hope you’re right about Chatman–top 40 HS kid easily projecting to Nik’s spot, but I got him more like a key bench guy ala Irvin this year.

          • guestavo

            Zak Irvin or Caris next year then who knows where Chatman plays positionally. Chatman would have been a backup w/ one of the 2 returning regardless.

          • BlueRev

            fwiw, we may do fine with those guys improving on the perimeter, but the most important guy we need back due to roster is clearly MM. Mitch is the difference between borderline top 25 and top 5.

          • guestavo

            we can agree there and we are in rebuild mode and aiming for a low seed.

        • Cory

          No point in laughing. His dislike for Stauskas knows no limit……Even though we wouldn’t have gone anywhere this year without him.

          • guestavo

            We wouldn’t have got anywhere without the top 7…. your point?

      • jamieh2

        LOL. Yeah Stauskas, the Big Ten POY who led the team in scoring and assists and one of the best shooters in Michigan Basketball HISTORY was not that important. Riiiiight. I’ll have some of whatever you are smoking dude, because it must be some powerful stuff.

        • guestavo

          I didn’t say he wasn’t important, idiot. I said his skillset is the most replaceable,

    • Dr_ZC

      I am sure he got the board evaluation, but I cannot say if it was important to his decision. His dad has given him some useful input, and I can tell for sure he has sought advice from his friend, THJ. If Tim can make it in the first round, so can he… He will have great NBA combine workouts, and he will move into the first round. Whether he can have a long NBA career, nobody knows.

  • Justin Harbin

    Starting Line Up next year:(hopefully)
    PG: Derrick Walton jr.
    SG: Caris Levert
    SF: Nik Stauskas
    PF: Zak Irvin
    C: Mitch McGary
    That is a nasty line up and I know Zak Irvin playing the 4 is a bit of stretch but I think if he works his tail off like Levert and Stauskas did during the summer he can get a lot stronger and be ready for the 4. It’ll either be him or Donnal at the 4 at this point and maybe Donnal be a stud I have no idea if how he will end up. I just hope we can at least get McGary back to stifle the front court because we need him the most out of the big three. Go Blue.

    • Dr_ZC

      I’d be pleasantly surprised if Nik stays…

      • jamieh2

        I love Stauskas and wish he would stay 2 more years but I suspect even Beilein has told him he should go pro. His stock will probably never be higher.

    • AADave

      I think Stauskas is clearly gone. As a projected lottery pick, it would seem foolish for him to stay. So I would guess next year’s starting lineup to be:

      PG: Derrick Walton Jr.
      SG: Caris Levert
      SF: Zak Irvin
      PF: Mark Donnal
      C: Mitch McGary

      • geoffclarke

        I think Walton, LeVert, Irvin, Chatman, McGary would start. Bench of Albrecht, Donnal, and Wilson. It would be really nice if both Doyle and Wilson were ready, but I wouldn’t count on it.

        • AADave

          That’s a possibility as well. Chatman looks like a stud. If he doesn’t start right away, I would anticipate that he will push starters for minutes as the sixth man.

      • dafug

        This is the lineup I expect. And it’s still a pretty damn good starting 5.

      • Chris De Sana

        Love that line up; Donnal can run the high PnR or PnPop and if he is able to hit the jumper Mitch gets the dump down low.

    • Jger

      Stauskas is gone… Book it… Probably signs with bartelsteins dad.

    • MGoBack

      Stauskas is gone. This will be Caris Levert’s team next year.

    • kam

      lol No way Nik comes back

  • arsenal926

    Can’t wait for Mitch, Glenn, and Nik to announce their decisions officially. As great as March is for college basketball fans, the minute the season ends, starts the worst 3 week period in our sport. No matter what any of them decide, I’ll be incredibly happy for them, but the whole “sources says” thing is just unbearable. You could say this for most most players, but I really think being a late 1st round pick is the best case scenario for him. If he can play for a team with already established roles, he should fit in very nicely. If the reporters wrong, that would be great too, in the end, whatever they want to do is usually the right decision.

  • AADave

    I trust that he’s making a good decision. By returning, he would risk injury. He’s had a good year showcasing his abilities and it seems unlikely that he will make a huge leap next year. He has extraordinary athleticism and should impress at predraft workouts. Teams will drool over his potential. Also, with his father’s NBA background, he has had plenty of top-notch advice regarding his decision. I strongly suspect he will move up draft boards and end up in the first round, possibly late lottery. Even if he isn’t drafted at that level, I think he’ll end up on an NBA roster and have a good or even great career.

  • isiah sanders

    Chad Ford on Robinson declaring…”Robinson is not ready for the NBA”…”I don’t believe he’s a first rd. pick right now”.

    • AADave

      Chad Ford was wrong about THJ, projecting him as a second rounder. THJ went solidly in the first round and is now one of the top rookies.

      • isiah sanders

        That’s not correct at all. Fords final mock draft had Hardaway going 25th. You can read the article if you want. Considering he went 24th I’d say that was a pretty good prediction. http://www.michigandaily.com/sports/nba-draft-analysis-tim-hardaway-jr

        • isiah sanders

          In fact Ford was one of the few people out there that thought Hardaway had a shot at the lottery.

          • isiah sanders

            Don’t get me wrong here I’m no fan of Chad Ford’s but I haven’t seen 1 expert who thinks Robinson is a 1st rd. pick.

          • Brad S

            Dude you are so missing the point here

          • JVS

            Chad Ford, day of THJr’s declaring:

            ESPN’s Chad Ford said Wednesday in his chat he thinks Hardaway would
            be a second-round selection. He is the No. 15 shooting guard in ESPN’s
            draft rankings and the No. 55 player overall.

            Chad ford will say that as of now, teams are thinking 2nd round, after GR3 breaks the standing vertical test, he will be on board for 1st. Mark it down (both for CF and for GR3)

        • What did he say in April when Tim declared?

        • AADave

          As others point out, the relevant comparison is Chad Ford’s prediction on THJ when he declared.

          GR3 has expert advisers who know as much or more than Chad Ford.

          But it’s somewhat of a crapshoot and Ford’s opinion does hold some weight.

  • ChathaM

    My worry re: Robinson from a NBA perspective is his combination of moderate size and ballhandling ability. If he can improve his ball skills significantly, he can be a good NBA player. The question is always whether it’s best to make that improvement as a pro, or before you go pro. He can obviously do it in either setting, but I wonder how much of his decision comes down to whether he’d have the opportunity to do it at UM. He’s taking a clear risk of ending up in the D league for a while, but he’d also be taking a clear risk by returning. Tough call for him, and I hope he makes the right choice.

  • Mattski

    I’m always a little surprised at casual onlookers who seem so certain they know better than a kid who’s been weighing the issue with all kinds of expert help for months on end, especially when they are privy to so few of the variables the kid and his family are. I mean–beyond “wish he were staying”–can you really say GRIII is making a bad move?Serious hubris.

    • BlueRev

      anyone know what a player makes in developmental league or Europe with GR3-like credentials. He’s going to have a decent job somewhere anyway for a few years–and quite possibly develop into NBA player at some point even if not this coming year.

    • jamieh2

      Well, it’s pretty simple. If you aren’t picked in the first round, it’s a pretty terrible decision. The difference between getting picked in the first round and 2nd round is the difference between guaranteed millions and pretty much nothing. Just making a team if you are a 2nd round pick is tough.

      You want to leave school when you think you are a 1st round pick. If you aren’t a first round pick yet, then you probably needed to work on your game more before going pro. Does GRIII think he is a first round pick? Probably. But is that because he actually is, or is that just because he’s believing the wrong people? I guess we will find out.

      If THJ had left after his sophomore year he probably would have gone in the 2nd round and would probably be struggling to stay in the league. Instead he came back, worked on his game, had a better year, got into the first round, and is now a major part of the Knicks.

      Will GRIII go in the first round? If not then this will be a big mistake, because he has enough talent that he definitely could have been (IMO) a first round lock if he had come back and put up a better year in 2015.

    • JohnNavarreIsMyHero

      A ton of us questioned the Morris decision, and feared the result than has ended up happening. Like jamieh2 below me is saying, if you are being projected in Round 2, you should stay. Team’s will not sit around and wait for second round picks to develop, which is hard to do because you will be expected to perform without being in a rhythm most of the time.

  • jkuofm27

    I can appreciate the GRIII and THJ comparisons somewhat. But if you are really trying to compare GRIII’s season this year to THJ’s last year that is a bit silly. THJ had a really good mid range game and had really perfected his 3pt shot. He also was taking people off the dribble more comfortably than he had in the past. GRIII has not developed his game the same way (yet). He might be ready to do that next year and I think he can, but is an NBA team willing to let him learn on the job? THJ, because he came back, was able to step in right away and fill a role for the Knicks. I don’t know that GRIII’s skills are able fill a role like that yet. If GRIII slides to the second he will not get the in-game minutes to work on his skills.

    • guestavo

      GR3 has a good midrange and THJR 3 ball got BETTER in the NBA

      • jkuofm27

        Maybe, but his junior year his 3 had gotten a lot better and he hit some long ones. You can’t compare the two. THJ was much more fluid offensively and was the defensive stopper last year. I have no doubt that GRIII can and will get better. The difference is that THJ showed it his junior year and GRIII has yet to fully show it.

        • guestavo

          “THJ was much more fluid offensively and was the defensive stopper last year”

          ask Knicks fans how good Tim’s defense and ballhandling is right now. I only see a differencee in perimeter shooting.

          • jkuofm27

            Which for the two spot in the NBA is maybe the most important thing. See the Pistons with no 3 pt shooters. Hardaway was a go to scorer and could have been the main option if Burke had gone down. GRIII was not that guy this year. I do believe GRIII has upside and his NBA defense might end up being better than Hardaway’s, because of his superior athleticism. However those are all projections. Hardaway had better dribbling skills and was labeled as a defensive stopper for us last year. GRIII was never labeled as a defensive stopper this year and he has not shown decent handles yet. Hardaway struggling in both of those areas in the NBA only proves the point that GRIII is relying on a really big projection.

          • Chazer

            Agreed, I watched quite a few knick games. THJ had a great year in my opinion, much better than I expected. He was a two dimensional player, 3 ball and fill the lane on the break. But in the NBA that can be enough, for a rookie in NY he showed excellent maturity and energy off the bench.

            Not sure about RGIII in the NBA. I never really saw him at the 2-3 position mostly the 4. But it’s time for him to go and I actually think THJ’s success might help him. He will need to show more energy though….Timmy was really pumped up coming off the bench. GRIII is a different kid….he could be great and it will be fun to watch him mature. Never want to be in the second round though….tough to improve in the D league…

  • Tom

    It’s his decision and if he’s ready he’s ready. It’s not whether he’ll make a lot of money playing ball. It’s whether he’s making a decision that maximizes his chances, takes into account the risk of injury during one more amateur year. The best example I think about is Darius Morris. If he stayed one more year and was a high 1st round pick, what would his career look like? NBA teams are more committed to their high picks than marginal picks. You get better looks and chances. I am not one to say “stay in school for the experience”. I just think he maximizes his future with one more development year before entering the shark tank.

    • Mattski

      These are good insights. But I think back on DMo–many now say he should have spent another year. MAYBE. But we don’t know. Maybe he was destined to never pan out as an NBA regular or star–few are! But he wanted to play basketball, and he wanted to a shot. The Lakers, in fact, invested quite a bit in him; I find it hard to believe that working every day around the clock with pro trainers and coaches was less helpful to his game than being a student AND playing at the college level. (Yes, there are other issues.) He may yet play his way back in. Few of us kill ourselves because we don’t end up among the handful of best architects in the world, etc., but Michigan fans have spent three years shaking their heads over Darius Morris, when mostly they just wish he had remained in a Michigan uni a little longer. We hopefully chose pursuits we loved and worked hard to be good at them. The window for these guys is so smaller than that for most professions. . .

      • arete

        Well said.

      • JohnNavarreIsMyHero

        The reason many question his decision back then was because he had a lot of raw skill but needed a lot of refining. The route he went had all the odds against him. He either ignored it or got very bad advice. I keep reading, well he can improve his game and focus on it 100% while he is in the NBA. He wasn’t an elite athlete and the less refined you come into the NBA, especially as replaceable as second picks are, you end up stuck in the NBA D-League at 23. Once you become yesterday’s news, it is extremely hard to get a team to bring you back on. Your leash is incredibly short and it becomes a revolving door of 10 day contracts and being cut even if you do have a few nice games.

  • Indiana_Matt

    I try to think about these decisions in light of what a player gains by coming back. He isn’t going to be the alpha dog on next year’s team. I think it makes sense for him to go. Yes, he can improve and he is surely aware of that. But by the end of the year it seemed like he didn’t want to do it in college anymore. Fair enough.

    And it seems like Robinson (like Hardaway before him) has access to more relevant opinions than your average player, due to his father’s NBA background. His decision is informed beyond what any of us know.

    Glenn was simply amazing above the rim and hit several key shots for us in his two year career. Will miss watching him catch those lobs. With the right coaching staff (Spurs, Bulls, Pacers, Trailblazers, Thunder, Mavs, maybe Suns, maybe Celtics) I think he has a decent NBA career. If he was picked earlier by a worse team I think he’d actually have a harder time staying in the league.

    • Indiana_Matt

      Also, his dad made $80,000,000 playing basketball, not counting his Reebok contract and any other endorsements. All that to say, this probably isn’t the financial risk that Darius Morris took.

      Note: average D-League salary is $17,300.

  • Patrick Nelson

    I wish him well but he’s going to have to work really hard & play with more confidence at the next level.

  • Chazer

    Harris is on his way to the NBA, will Dawson be next?

  • Rich74

    I am actually surprised that GRIII has made this decision based on the draft projections that I see (makes you wonder what the committee told him). From what I saw this year, GRIII did improve through out the year but not enough to make a statement to the NBA that he is ready or that he solidified his “potential”. Yes I know, he has athletic ability and has his dad’s genes, but his lack of size (height and girth) for a 3 and average dribble drive skills, which will keep him from being a 2 will make it difficult to break any line up in the first few years. I truly hope this is the best decision for him and I hope I am wrong in my prediction that he needed one, or two, more years to mature his game and on court toughness. He seems like he is a wonderful young man and the Michigan program will miss him next year.

  • Truth75

    I think this decision was based on the coaches not being able to guarantee a spot at the 3 position next year if he returned. Bottom line was Glen wanted to play the 3 not only to showcase his skills but to improve at the position as well. Just dont believe he was willing to take the risk of the same thing happening all over again. Seemed as though he may have felt he made a bad decision returning last year and it probably played a major role in his decision this year.

  • Unfortunate situation for the kid. He probably would have had to play the four next year (AGAIN) and that’s just not his NBA position. At the same time…. I don’t know if he’s an NBA player with his current skills. Maybe he’s quicker laterally than I give him credit for… but if he has more than one NBA contract I’d be surprised and to me he screams D-League.

  • JohnNavarreIsMyHero

    I heard this line the other day which should be repeated continuously to guys on the fence and being projected in the second round despite having first round potential: The question was: Do you want to PLAY in the NBA, or do you want a CAREER in the NBA?

    Waiting to hear the final word if this is indeed true, but if true, I honestly just don’t get this decision. There is just no way the Advisory Opinion could have him as a first round pick. Could he get there, sure, but the odds are he ends up a second round pick which makes this decision awful.

    There are a lot of nightmare examples about 6’6 220 talented players who left early and were out of the league before their mid 20s. Second round picks have no leverage, will not get the same look and leeway as first round picks, will play sporadically which results get thrown to the curb fast if you don’t do positive things when thrown into less than ideal situations.