Tourney Talk with Andy Cox of Crashing the Dance

Andy Cox, the man behind Crashing the Dance, agreed to answer a couple questions about Michigan’s tournament chances and what he does over on his website. I’m a big fan of Crashing the Dance because it is a new take on bracketology and the model seems to work quite well. CTD got 32 of 34 at large teams correct and seeded 82% of them within 1 seed of their actual spot on the bracket. There are also plenty of other cool features like sparklines (Michigan: sparklinerpi163) which detail a team’s season in just a few pixels or the bubble grid which provides a daily rundown of every bubble team’s measurables. Thanks again to Andy for taking the time to answer these questions.

For people unfamiliar with the site, how exactly does Crashing the Dance work?

Glad you asked. Crashing the Dance learns from past brackets how the NCAA selection committee selects and seeds teams with certain kinds of profiles. Like the real committee, CTD handles at-large selection and seeding separately. First, it predicts whether each team would be in or out and how confident that prediction is by examining teams with similar profiles from previous years and whether those teams were selected (or conference champions that would have been selected). The top 34 at-large teams are chosen after ranking the at-large candidates by the prediction confidence. After determining the 65 teams in the field (34 at-large plus 31 conference champions), each team is assigned a most likely seed by again comparing its profile with similar teams (and their seeds) from past brackets. The full 1 to 65 seed list (called the S-Curve) is generated by ranking the teams by this most likely seed.

Let’s look at Michigan (through Monday’s games) as an example for each step. CTD thinks Michigan will be selected at large with 99.9% confidence based on how teams with similar profiles were handled in previous years. Michigan ranks 29th in at-large selection confidence out of all at-large candidates, so they are the sixth to last at-large team selected. After putting the Wolverines in the field, CTD gives them 8.80 seed points (16 seed points = #1 seed, 1 seed point = #16 seed), again based on past comps. In other words, teams with similar profiles in the past have generally been placed somewhere between a #8 and #9 seed (slightly closer to #8 here). When we rank all 65 teams by their seed points, this puts Michigan at #37 on the S-Curve, which results in a #10 seed. Note that the most likely seed is not always the same as the final seed, because more than four teams on each seed line could be given the same most likely seed. This is true here, as 7 teams have between 9.23 and 8.80 seed points (i.e., the model’s best guess is about an #8 seed). A tight cluster like this also means big jumps are possible.

What do you think of Michigan’s resume right now? The question on everybody’s mind is whether they need to beat Iowa in round 1 of the Big Ten Tournament.

I wouldn’t say they’re out if they lose, but it’s a lot like dealing with bad calls by officials. Bad calls happen, but if you take care of business the bad calls won’t make the difference between winning and losing. It’s the same thing with the selection committee. Win as many games as you can to make their decision easy. Too much can still happen this week for this game to be the decider, but the win at Minnesota certainly helped.

Also, Butler’s loss tonight kills one more available bubble slot, so the Iowa game becomes more important. I’m still not willing to say it’s a must win, because that depends on what the other bubble teams do, but as I said take care of business and don’t leave it up to others.

What are the strengths and weaknesses of U-M’s resume? We talk a lot about the top 50 wins and the road record, are there other subtle attributes that we need to pay attention to?

Top 50 wins are definitely important, and “good” road wins are probably as important as overall road record. Last year, the committee chair said that Oregon was selected in large part because of three “really good” RPI Top 100 road wins. Granted, one of those those was against #92 Cal, but the committee does like road performance. Also, going 3-1 against Minnesota and Penn State can’t hurt if it comes down to a head to head discussion.

How many teams do you see making the field from the Big Ten? By my untrained eye I feel like there are eight teams that have resumes that look “tournament worthy”.

Much of the criticism I’ve heard of the Big 10 is that there are a lot of good but not great teams (seven in the RPI Top 50), somehow inflating the profiles of mediocre teams (seven teams finished between 11-7 and 9-9) with all of the opportunities for top 50 wins. Of course, part of the reason for so many top 50 teams is good non-conference performance, at least according to the RPI’s standards. That said, while there are eight teams in now, the conference tourney is sure to cause some attrition and at least one will probably fall out. That’s another good reason why it would be good for Michigan to take care of business against Iowa.

Right now you have the Big Ten bubble teams ranked in this order: Ohio State, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Penn State. Is Minnesota really ahead of Michigan despite the fact that Michigan has more top 50 wins, a better out of conference resume, the same in conference record, and swept Minnesota?

Through Monday’s games, Minnesota, Wisconsin and Michigan are ranked 35-37 on the S-Curve separated by 0.24 seed points. A difference this small can change quickly, often by things outside a team’s control (e.g. an opponent dropping out of the RPI Top 50 which affects the number of Top 50 wins). Unfortunately, we don’t consider head-to-head games, but I suspect the committee only tends to use those a tiebreakers because of the sheer number of possible head-to-head comparisons over 5000+ games.

Minnesota has a slightly better non-conference RPI (partly because Michigan has four games against RPI 300+ opponents) even though Michigan has the stronger schedule. I don’t like looking only at strength of schedule (in fact, I don’t use SOS explicitly for either selection or seeding) because there has to be a balance between playing tough games and winning them. Michigan’s two top 50 non-conference wins are better than Minnesota’s one, and the loss at Maryland doesn’t look so bad after North Carolina also lost there. My guess is that to the human eye Michigan’s profile is slightly above Minnesota’s. However, as a wise man once said, all bubble teams have some warts – that’s why they’re on the bubble.

Make sure to check out Crashing The Dance at www.crashingthedance.com.

Tuesday Links & Notes

John Beilein's Weekly Press Conference: March 9, 2009

Links

Viewers Guide

Really just one big game on the bubble today, here is the quick viewers guide.

  • Cleveland State at Butler – 9PM ESPN
    Root for Butler to win the conference title so they don’t snatch an extra at-large bid.
  • Georgetown at St. Johns – 2PM
    Georgetown still has that gaudy RPI and a nice set of quality wins, St. John could end any NCAA tournament dreams in the first round of the Big East tournament. Yeah, I know this game is almost over…
  • Oakland vs. North Dakota State – 8 PM ESPN2
    Go Golden Grizzlies! Neither of these teams would warrant an at large bid but Michigan did play Oakland and it would be great to see the local program in the dance.
  • DePaul beat Cincinnati earlier today which I think hurts Providence a bit. The Friars miss a chance at another top 100 win and have nothing to gain with a win over DePaul. The Louisville game in the quarterfinals will be Providence’s chance to make a statement.

Recruiting Roundup (3-9-09)

A lot of Michigan targets have wrapped up their seasons or didn’t play this week so this is an abbreviated version of the recruiting roundup. If someone is not on the list, don’t mistake it as a sign that there is no longer any mutual interest or anything like that.

Commitments

Darius Morris

Darius scored 16 points in a 72-62 win over La Verne Lutheran in the Division V-A Southern Sectional title game despite battling an ankle injury over the last couple weeks.

Windward gets back to work in the State Tournament tonight against Mission Prep. The full state tournament bracket can be found here (Windward is in Division V).

Matt Vogrich

Lake Forest won their regional after a 55-43 win over Stevenson that followed a 67-46 win over Barrington. Vogrich had 19 points in both victories.

“We have been motivated all season by people picking against us,” said Vogrich, who contributed 19 points and 7 boards. “Other people picked Zion to win the sectional and didn’t think that we deserved the top seed, but here we are.”

Lake Forest will take on Warren and Illinois bound Brandon Paul tonight at Waukegan High School. The teams split the first two match-ups and they were both settled in overtime. Vogrich got the best of Paul in the last battle but tonight’s game will determine who gets the last laugh.

Jordan Morgan

morgan-trapJordan Morgan had a big game in a 85-82 win over Southfield and 2011 Michigan target Carlton Brundidge. Morgan had 28 points and 11 boards while Brundidge scored 33 points.

Eso Akunne (pref. walk-on)

Eso had 22 points, 8 rebounds, and 8 assists in a 74-53 win over Chelsea in the district semi-finals. Despite the solid numbers, Eso called it his worst game of the year.

2010 Recruits

Casey Prather

Prather’s season came to a disappointing end in a 70-68 loss to Dyer County. Prather struggled with foul trouble the whole game, he picked up three fouls in the first six minutes and only scored 1 point in the first half. Casey came alive in the second with 16 points but it just wasn’t enough. Prather was called for a charge with 28 seconds left while the Indians were down 1 and later missed his final attempt.

“I felt like I should have been at the line,” Prather said. “But it should have never come down to one play.”

Alex Dragicevich

Dragicevich had 33 points and 13 rebounds in a 73-58 regional final win over Evanston.

“I was open, so I took some shots tonight,” Dragicevich said. “We’re getting better on defense. All five guys are participating. We were attacking Evanston’s traps and zone tonight, which resulted in a lot of back-door layups offensively.”

Devin Oliver

SPT KCentral Hoops 02_26 OliverOliver had 14 points in a recent win over Battle Creek Central.  A couple of weeks ago he also had a big game against Loy Norrix when he scored 20 points and got a number of steals.

“I look at the players eyes to see where he’s going to throw the ball,” Oliver, who scored a game-high 20 points to go along with a handful of steals. “I act like I’m not going to go — and then I anticipate and go get it.”

Other Links

All-Big Ten Teams Announced

Manny Harris was named to the first team by both the coaches and the media along with Evan Turner, JaJuan Johnson, Talor Battle and Player of the Year Kalin Lucas.

DeShawn Sims was named to the second team by the media and the third team by the coaches.

Congrats to both Manny and DeShawn. Click here for the full list.

Monday Bracketology Update

All of the bracketologists updated their brackets today and it seems like all of them but Warren Nolan have Michigan in the field of 65. The consensus is that Michigan is right around the 10/11-seed line. Personally, I would rather see a 10 or 11 seed than a 9 seed. Michigan is in good position as we head into the conference tournaments but the bottom line is the Iowa game on Thursday looms large. I am very nervous and it is a definite trap game. Not to mention the fact that so many things can happen around the country to drive the number of available bids downward. Hopefully the team takes Manny Harris’ words to heart:

“It feels good, but I’m not going to feel as good until (the NCAA bid) is in writing and I see it on Selection Sunday,” Harris said. “We’ve got a lot more work to go.”

Bracket Updates:

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The UMHoops All-Big Ten Team

The Big Ten will announce the all-conference teams tonight at 7 PM on the Big Ten Network. In honor of the big day I put together my best effort at an All-Big Ten ballot including a first, second, third, defense, and freshmen team as well as a coach of the year. No two conference teams are alike so feedback is encouraged in the comments.

MVP: Kalin Lucas - Best player on the best team gets the MVP in my book.

First Team

  • Kalin Lucas - 14.6 ppg, 4.6 apg, 113.2 ORtg, 24.9% Usage
  • Talor Battle – 17.3 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 4.9 apg, 112.1 Ortg, 27.3% Usage
  • Evan Turner -16.8 ppg, 7.1 rpg, 3.8 apg,  108.2 Ortg, 28.8% Usage
  • Manny Harris – 17.1 ppg, 7 rpg, 4.3 apg, 1.3 spg, ORtg 106.5, 31.8% Usage
  • DeShawn Sims – 15 ppg, 7.2 rpg, 53.4 eFG%, 109.8 ORtg, 24.6% Usage

This one was really tough. Kalin Lucas, Talor Battle, Evan Turner, and Manny Harris were locks in my book. They all carried their teams and put up big numbers. The fifth spot came down to DeShawn Sims, JaJuan Johnson, and Kevin Coble. Yes, I might be a little biased but I really feel like DeShawn Sims’ season was good enough to warrant a spot on the first team. He carried Michigan down the stretch and was top 5 in both scoring and rebounding. I realize that the odds of Sims making the first team are very low because two players from a 9-9 team aren’t going to make it but I think that statistically he stacks up.

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