Game 10: Michigan at UCLA Open Thread

Dylan Burkhardt
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Michigan and UCLA are set for a 5 p.m. (8 p.m. eastern) tip off at Pauley Pavilion this evening (ESPN2). The Wolverines will be facing the No. 2 ranked Bruins, hoping to slow down one of the nation’s best offenses.

Join the discussion in the open thread below before, during and after tonight’s game.

  • iBleedBlue

    We can complain about defensive mistakes and missed shots, but nobody was going to beat UCLA tonight. They’re shooting videogame numbers and oozing confidence.

    • malcolm bolt

      Complaints are rational. The fan base desires for the University to produce an elite squad.

    • ChipperFliet

      That’s just what the Bruins do. Shooting 56% on the season and I believe 51% from behind the arc.

      • Chezaroo

        In Vegas collecting I presume?

  • Rich74

    Yes it is a loss but very entertaining. No matter what we weren’t, realistically, going to win this game.

    • iBleedBlue

      If UCLA played at a non android-sniper level, maybe. 80 points is a lot of points

      • Rich74

        They, UCLA, are averaging about 95 a game. Yes Michigan wins virtually every game when they score 80 or more, but they don’t play a scoring machine like this often.

  • jblair52

    We’ll never beat a team that has a bunch of Top 25/Top 50 players. Not enough firepower.

    • jemblue

      Well, not if they shoot 70% from downtown.

    • iBleedBlue

      Dude, we scored 80+ and they’re shooting videogame numbers

      • jblair52

        Yea, we were lights out and still couldn’t come within 20.

  • Chezaroo

    Santa, please send us a rim protector

    • iBleedBlue

      …Teske…please

  • JJ3ball

    Why MAAR why? Turrible defensive thought process

  • malcolm bolt

    MAAR getting beat on the dribble by Alford is what I’m referring to by a Michigan player learning the game. Still learning to play positioned defense.

    • MGoTweeter

      I think part of the problem is uclas shooting has thrown off everything they want to do on d. Hard to play a pack line defense against this kind of shooting.

    • MAZS

      MAAR has struggled defensively all year.

  • Wayman Britt

    MAAR again beat on defense

  • iBleedBlue

    The worst takeaway from this game is that MAAR’s defense is regressing

  • Chezaroo

    Damn, lose a double digit starting center and still bust a 100 bones

  • JJ3ball

    What’s Coach Beilein’s record when they give up 100?

  • jblair52

    Beilein probably doesn’t even remember that he recruited Leaf.

    • MAZS

      why would that be?

      • Cory

        He’s just trolling. Pay no attention.

      • jblair52

        lol just joking…we just whiff anytime we “recruit” 5 Stars.

    • Chezaroo

      He loved Leaf. Went after him hard

      • MAZS

        proto-type Beilein 4………actually any coaches ideal 4

      • jblair52

        Yeah. “Hard” for Beilein doesn’t usually get Top 50 players.

        • MAZS

          I think we get it

          • jblair52

            I don’t think Beilein does. Looking at the outlook for 2018 and 2019 classes…hah…mediocrity here we come.

          • MAZS

            I meant your monotony

          • Cory

            These are the same type of Michigan fans that are pissed off we’re only going to the Orange Bowl this year.

          • MAZS

            Or that Beilein’s never won the NC—2013 and 2014 being such disappointments

          • jblair52

            …no, more like upset that that wasn’t a revelation to him. Get great players = Great success.

          • jblair52

            No, but I am pissed that we’re 2-14 against Ohio State in the last 16 games played. (1 in the last 13) Does that not bother you?

          • jblair52

            I know what you mean. I was being facetious. I just hate losing and I love Beilein as a coach but wish he would help himself on the recruiting trail. I seriously think he’s amazing enough as a coach to be a Coach K level – Blue Blood program if he’d figure out the recruiting trail.

  • MGoTweeter

    Sucks that this is gonna look like a blowout. Michigan was never gonna keep up in a game like this without substituting. Guys just get too worn down and shots stop falling and defense is a step slower. Liked the way they played for a while and hated the way they close the game.

    • Chezaroo

      Recruit some college ready freshmen

      • MGoTweeter

        Yea I’ve been shocked at how unready to play both Simpson and Watson are. I stopped paying attention to recruiting but based on rankings alone you would think they’d be ready to play a bit but neither looks comfortable on the floor. Teske and Davis is more understandable since it’s tougher for bigs to be ready

        • Chezaroo

          Lots of Frosh that aren’t top 25s that are contributing mightily across the country for lesser programs. It’s his roster.

    • Wayman Britt

      Would have liked Teske to get a few minutes earlier

  • iBleedBlue

    I cant believe people are getting so down from this game. UCLA just beat Kentucky, in Rupp. And shot an unbelievable game against us. We just only managed equal ridiculousness for a half.

    • MGoTweeter

      I’m not down just disappointed the way the game ended. You could see it coming with the way the game was going. Not sure Michigan could do anything about it but would have been nice to see a little response once ucla pushed it up past 10-12

  • Stephen Chang

    I can see why UCLA is one of the best BB teams in the country and why they beat Kentucky. They have balanced scoring and they have length. They keep playing like this, they will be in the Final Four. Good effort by Michigan tonight, not much that they could do.

  • Stephen Chang

    Hopefully Michigan can recruit some college ready players like what UCLA is doing right now.

    • malcolm bolt

      Great point Chang. Michigan players are always in a developmental stage, even as seniors, whereas the top 15 teams have guys with more fundamentals, higher knowledge, and athleticism.

      • MGoTweeter

        That’s not true. It’s really only been an issue as of late even then I’m not sure it’s true. Maybe just this year

        • malcolm bolt

          Irvin and Walton still make 12th grade mistakes. Donnal still doesn’t understand the game. Ibi is just a whirling dervish ready to mess up. I can’t embellish this stuff.

      • MGoTweeter

        Michigan has had a ton of instant impact players under beilein. Unfortunately it’s not looking good for this class

      • Stephen Chang

        Here is the thing, it is nice to get not well known high school players, but Beilein has to get more guys like when he recruited Robinson, McGary and Stauskas. Heck, even a Time Hardway JR type of player would be nice

        • malcolm bolt

          I agree, but remember McGary was highly sought after. Florida, Duke, and Kansas were hot on his tail. Beilein can’t even recruit on the Wisconsin level, which would be a logical comparison.

  • JJ3ball

    South Carolina vs UCLA would be interesting

  • GTFOmycourt

    UCLA is an offensive freak show. We looked like a top 20 team. Very proud of the performance.

  • Timothy David

    I think it’s pretty clear that today’s college basketball comes down to primarily one thing…. Recruiting.

    • MAZS

      Villanova, among theres, would say otherwise [this doesn’t mean that recruiting ain’t very important]

      • malcolm bolt

        Villanova recruited Brunson. A top PG that Beilein didn’t land.

        • MAZS

          and at best the 4th wheel at Villanova

      • Timothy David

        Yes- there’s lots of other things (coaches, facilities, etc) but imo, right now, recruiting is at the top of the list. One player can change the game so much.

    • MGoTweeter

      Today’s? I think that’s always been the case just ask John wooden how much he payed for his teams. However just like those days, you can still win without getting the best of the best. But it is a lot harder

      • Timothy David

        Not disagreeing but we are also seeing a lot more one and done players / NBA ready players coming straight from high school which was unheard of back then.

    • Chezaroo

      Xs and Os or Jimmys and Joes?

  • GTFOmycourt

    I think Burke, Hardaway, Stauskas, GR3 and Morgan would have lost this game too.

    Burke and company might have lost to our guys tonight too….

    No shame in this loss.

    • jblair52

      No – but it’s sadly revealing that we can shoot insane #’s and play an amazing game…and still lose by nearly 20.

      • GTFOmycourt

        UCLA shot super insane on steroids and did not win by more than 20.

        • jblair52

          They could have shot 37.5% from 3 and if they made one more FT would have beaten us. Which would have been well below their 45% from 3 average for the season.

          Likewise, if we had shot our season average of 35% from 3, we would have lost by 33.

          So yeah, it seems like we were the ones that had the lucky game. Not them.

          • GTFOmycourt

            UCLA shot a sizzling 24/34 on 2 point shots and 15/24 3’s. It wasn’t like we were giving them easy layups and dunks. UCLA shot and made a lot of difficult mid range shots. I think both teams were lucky with shooting. We played good enough to beat them if they played average.

  • Fab 5 Legends

    Proud of our performance, UCLA is a final four team – if we shot like that against VT, SC we would have had 2 more W’s…a superior talented team, with gifted NBA players overwhelmed us

  • realber

    it comes down to talent, plain and simple. we have fringe top 25 talent and that will manifest itself all season long. Not enough playmakers on either end of the floor. Good enough to possibly finish in the upper tier of big ten, but we’re fooling ourselves if we think anything more. How many times are we just going to jack up threes and then fail to grab tough rebounds or defend? Very frustrating to acknowledge this team just isn’t at the level we would like.