NBA Draft Gurus Discuss Darius Morris

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Aran Smith of NBADraft.net and Kristofer Habbas of NBA Draft Insider both agreed to answer a couple quick questions about Darius Morris’s draft status. I’m far from an expert on the NBA, I probably watched four regular season games this year, so figured it would make a bit of sense to defer to those that follow the draft.

Where do you have Darius listed in your current projections?

NBADraft.net: He’s currently projected as an early second round pick. In the 30-40 range.
NBA Draft Insider: Morris is listed 39th overall today and as the 7th best point guard prospect in the draft. He is 34th in our current Mock Draft (going to Washington).

What sort of effect could the pre-draft workouts have on Morris’s current standing? How high could he rise and how far could he slide?

NBADraft.net: He could rise into the late first round or slip into the late second round. If he really had a poor showing in New Jersey or enough workouts possibly undrafted, but i think that’s unlikely.
NBA Draft Insider: At the Combine or in the Mass Workout in New Jersey Morris could very easily move up the ladder and into the first round of the draft. He is strong enough and crafty enough to take advantage of smaller, weaker guards. In a 5-on-5 setting he may be a top 4-5 point guard in this draft. Morris plays a smooth game that translates better in a game setting. If he is judged strictly on measurements, he will slide due to to his average athleticism. On the other hand, if he is able to have the ball in his hands for those 5-on-5 workouts look for him to be a first round pick. The Mass Workout in New Jersey is scheduled for May 7th-8th.

If you were advising Morris, would you tell him to enter the draft this year or wait another season?

NBADraft.net: Point guard is the position that takes the longest to master and it’s very difficult to learn on the fly since it’s a catch up game playing at the NBA level. I would say for his long term development going back for 1-2 years would be best. For his draft stock, you could make a case either way. He could improve his stock by improving his game. But then again next year’s draft appears to be significantly deeper and better than this year’s.

NBA Draft Insider: When advising a prospect in Morris situation – not quite ready, but with his highest stock – you have to be careful. He will not go any higher next year, the draft is deep and their are an equal amount of quality point guards. He also needs more time to improve, after a junior year he could be as ready as possible. If his stock is a lock for Top 40 I would advise him to stay. If he is on the fence about his stock, go back.

What sort of effect is the potential of having a lockout having on this year’s draft?

NBADraft.net: A number of players decided to return to school to make sure they continue developing and don’t miss out on games. It has depreciated the level of talent in this year’s draft pool.

NBA Draft Insider: Jared Sullinger and Harrison Barnes stayed for education and to get better, not for money. Fringe first rounders and others are the ones letting the lockout effect their decisions. It is all about who is in the players ears and right now they are having a major impact on these kids.

Final take: will Morris stay in the draft or withdraw?

NBADraft.net: I am hearing he’s likely to stay in.

NBA Draft Insider: I see him staying, worst case scenario he is an early second round pick who needs to earn a contract. He is skilled enough to be a back-up in the NBA today. I am not the first to say this, but he is a better version of Andre Miller.

  • mat

    well, crap

    • http://1991onehundred.tumblr.com/ MattM

      Haha! That’s exactly what went through my head when I finished reading this.

  • http://www.theonlycolors.com Josh (intrpdtrvlr)

    Man, I think I’d advise Morris to stay in. I understand the rhetoric about the need to stay in school and improve his game for a successful NBA career. However, he may also find himself in a scenario where time and exposure picks apart his game and slowly makes him a less coveted prospect. As some of the analysts suggest, it’s quite possible that this is the highest he’ll ever be drafted. With that in mind, barring a disastrous set of workouts, I’d tell him to stay in.

    • Dylan Burkhardt

      And the MSU fan in you obviously wouldn’t mind him leaving either ;-)

      • Josh (intrpdtrvlr)

        Haha, yeah, he probably shouldn’t actually receive the advice from me. Of course any MSU fan who wants to beat UM next year feels better about that prospect minus Morris. Still think it’s sound advice for his future, though. Iron might be hottest right now.

  • Eric

    He wouldn’t be in the process this far along unless he realistically thinks he can go pro, and wants to do so. I feel like a lot of these comments are the same things we have been hearing all along and it hasn’t deterred Morris to this point. I think he is gone, and it is quite unforunate.

  • p nel

    They can survive without him, the future is bright for this team even though I would’nt want him to go.

    • eddie

      I agree that the team is very well positioned to survive without him. I’m curious (and maybe Dylan can help out with this question), in terms of offensive/defensive production numbers, how would the loss of DMo compare to the loss of Manny and DeShawn last year?

      • Mith

        I disagree a ton. I think DMo leaving will have a dramatic effect on the team. He was that good last year and I can really see us sputtering next year trying to fill his shoes.

        This is the part of college basketball I hate. I wish guys had to stay 3-4 years.

        • Tweeter

          agree that it will have a dramatic effect on the team and that there will undoubtedly be some adustment time. But I also agree with Eddie that the team is positioned well to move forward without him. The question is, and nobody knows the answer to this, how long it will take for the team to adjust?

          Next year’s team looks to be in much better shape than the team did coming into this year after losing Sims, and Manny early. It didnt look like the team collectively had a chance to replace their production, yet in actuality we had more than enough. Next year we have geat leadership returning and a bunch of young guys who should see a big jump in ability from first to second year. Plus a talented group of recruits coming in to add to the mix.

          • ScottGoBlue

            But a 1st-year point guard almost surely means next year will be a roller coaster. I’m sure Burke will be good. I’m equally sure that without Morris he’ll need to play 30+ minutes at PG, which is a lot ask of a freshman. I cite Darius Morris’s frosh year as evidence to that effect.

            I think Morris is the difference between finishing in the top 3 in the Big Ten and finishing in the middle of the pack again (4-8). Not bad considering where we’ve come from. But no leap forward next year without Morris.

            I hope I’m wrong. I hope we don’t have to find out.

  • http://maizecoloredglasses.blogspot.com/ the_white_tiger

    :(

  • JD

    If he stays, I hope the Pistons take him in the 2nd. They need a legit PG badly.

  • Section13Row15

    I hear what you guys are saying (and I’m not singling anyone out) but we can’t continue to talk out of both sides of our mouths. We all want NBA caliber talent at U-M, but we also want everyone to stay 4 years at the same time. It doesn’t work that way. I’m kind of taking the approach of being excited either way because it gives Darius an opportunity at the next level if he leaves and also opens up more opportunity for our incoming guards (Burke, Brundidge) and opens up an additional scholarship we weren’t sure we had. On the other hand, if Darius stays, we can all assume we’ll have another very exciting season again next year. Hopefully with Darius and Tim getting looks from the NBA, it will continue to attract NBA caliber players to Michigan will only help us win championships. People have criticized Beilein for not recruiting NBA type players. Well, careful what you wish for. Here it is…

  • http://www.bryemye.com bryemye

    The kid is out of the league after one contract if he stays in the draft. Why aren’t people seeing the truth here? He won’t get much better playing in the NBA. He will rarely play in games, plus the lockout, plus NBA teams DO NOT PRACTICE. He has no jumper and leaves a lot to be desired defensively against quick guards, which… it’s the NBA. The NBA is super deep at point guard right now as it is. Is he really going to give up a chance at reaching his full potential to go be a backup somewhere?

    This isn’t even close! The fact that this has gotten this far is just absurd. Do you really think there are going to be five point guards from this draft that stick in the league for more than one contract?!

    • Tweeter

      Not going to disagree with your point that leaving will be a bad decision for Morris because I cannot. Its impossible to know what the best decision is in these circumstances.

      However, I do disagree with your reasons. In the NBA he will have the opportunity to develop his skills at a much faster rate than he does in college. Yeah there are not a ton of “team practices” in the NBA but there is a lot more individual work done at that level. All those guys do is get in the gym and work on their games. Plus playing and working with the best players in the world helps a ton. Just like all the work Darius did this past summer with John Wall was undoubtedly a huge benefit.

      In terms of sticking in the league, I dont think it matters when he leaves. If he is good enough and driven enough, he is going to stick whether he leaves now or later. Staying another year is not going to change that fact. Staying another year will make him a better player but so will being in the NBA for a year, probably even more so.

      There are really only two questions in my mind. 1. will the player be on an NBA team for year one? 2. will returning to school for another year unquestionably improve his draft selection and ultimately his pay level of the first contract? If the answer to 1 is yes, then he should probably leave. Unless the answer to 2 is yes as well. In that case, he should probably return.

      The problem here is that it looks like the answer to question 2 may very well be no. The draft appears to be much deeper next season and Darius is not suddenly going to become an elite athlete which would vault him into the lottery.

      There are ofcourse some factors that change this criteria. Such as does the player want to be in college? Is the chance to be a part of a potentially special team important to the player? Is the money of the NBA important right now? The answers are all unique for Darius and I can’t fault him if he feels strongly one way or the other. It’s his life and he is the only one that has to live with the decision.

      • http://www.bryemye.com bryemye

        I just disagree that he’s going to improve faster in the NBA. Just disagree. Point guards don’t get better sitting on the bench. For big men, maybe they develop. Not point guards.

        Thinking about this more has made me more angry. Put simply, what would an NBA team draft Darius Morris to do? If he’s your starter you’re probably screwed, at least initially, since he can’t shoot or play defense against a starting point guard. If he’s your second tier guy though, what do you do? He still can’t defend anyone, so he’s a liability there. Offensively, you’re not going to run your offense through him, at least not on purpose. Do you run the pick and roll with him? Then they just play under and beg him to shoot. He’s not fast enough to do damage against an nba point guard if they’re playing off of him. He can probably still be “crafty” in the lane and steal some buckets for you but jesus, unless he improves dramatically on defense I’m not sure that’s worth it.

        I just don’t see a reason for an NBA coach to play this kid. I’m sorry but it’s that bad. This isn’t close. If you extrapolate out so that he’s a good shooter, not just serviceable, but good, then maybe he makes a decent backup on a contender. Maybe. He’s still painfully slow compared to NBA point guards and with the ability of help defenders in the NBA bodying up isn’t going to work anywhere near as well.

        • Dylan Burkhardt

          One thing is that every extra year you play in college can also count against you. If you’re just a sophomore, the idea is that you still have time to improve your three point shot. If you shoot poorly as a junior again, people begin to think you’ll never be able to shoot.

          • http://www.bryemye.com bryemye

            That’s draft position vs. actually having a career, which Coach B expressed as the goal.

            Besides which Darius isn’t some Marvin Williams style athlete. He either has to be a complete package or it just isn’t going to work out for him. I don’t think he’s the type to get lots of chances from teams just because of his upside.

        • Tweeter

          basically you are saying that he is never going to be good enough to play in the NBA. Which like fair enough, but then whats the point of vehemently arguing against his decision.

          • http://www.bryemye.com bryemye

            I’m saying without a jump shot he has no shot. With a jump shot it’s close. That and improved defense.

            Obviously a guy like him isn’t very likely to be a superstar regardless but that’s not the point.

          • Tweeter

            well he is going to improve those things a lot more quickly by being in the NBA than he is in college. Or at least he will have more opportunities to improve those things quicker. He may not make a big impact next season, but that really does not matter if his projected salary will not be any higher in another year. As long as he can stick on a team for a year, he is probably better off going. If you think those things or lack of those things, is going to prevent him from making and staying on a team, than he probably should not go.

          • Beast1530

            There are plenty of PG who has no jump shot. Rondo, Andre Miller comes to mind.

        • Slim989

          He is athletic enough to play in the NBA and start. Its not all about first step and what not. He has more than enough strength and the most important, body control to be very good. Hes like a bigger, stronger, minus the jumper Steve Nash. His defense and jumper will improve in the leauge. Look at Jason Kidd coming out of college his jumper was just like Darius’. Jason has improved greatly and is one of the best point guards ever. His defense will also improve he has great length and strength to be a pretty good defender.

    • Adam

      Sour grapes much?

      • http://www.bryemye.com bryemye

        No. I watch more NBA than college ball by a fair stretch. I do watch and love Michigan but this is more with the logic of going pro and what I feel to be bad advice.

  • gordie bell

    Better version of Andre Miller? I don’t think so. Better version of Mateen Cleaves? Maybe.

  • Tom, Too

    The difference ONE college year will make in his NBA career is minimal….it will increase his draft stock (most likely), but make him a better overall player for the rest of his life? That is what I am hearing here in these comments.

    • http://www.bryemye.com bryemye

      I disagree. One more year of game experience can make a huge difference.

  • Eric

    If he does go pro, I hope that he gets drafted by my Wizards. We desperately need another point guard on the roster besides Wall, which would make him the obvious backup, but at least he would get some minutes to start his career.

  • michman

    This was clear as day to me looking back at game footage. He wanted out… Anytime JB wanted to address something to DMo, DMo wanted nothing to do with it.. Even with the slightest chance of getting a pick late 2nd round he still would have gone. This honeslty is best for both parties and i wish him the best.

    What this means,
    No more hype for this team next year, predicted to be middle of the big ten.
    No pre season top 25.
    IMHO a bubble team at the end of the year, possibly in the same postion as this year.
    Trey Burke will start at PG.

    • MichBball

      Step away from the cliff… I noticed the exact opposite as you with Darius this season.
      If he enters the draft we’ll still be a better team than this past year. With Hardaway improving and playing like he did at the end of last season for a whole season and possibly better. Also Smotrycz, Morgan, and Horford will most likely improve. We have Burke to start if he can grasp the system, if not then we can use Douglass at the beginning of the year and Burke can take over mid-season.

      • DoubES

        I’m going to have to agree with Michman that Darius leaving will have a large effect on our team next year. As others have mentioned, PG is a position where experience is oh so important, and it’s the most important position on the court. Burke will not be able to run the offense like Darius did, and let’s not forget that a huge part of Morgan’s success had to do with Darius getting him easy looks.

        It’s a bummer, because we were primed for a big year, but I’m looking at 2012-13 as our chance to do big things now. We’ll still be a solid team though.

    • Tweeter

      Re DMo w/ JB: I cant say this for a fact, but I think some of that stuff you see with DMo is just him being so competitive. I dont think he was tuning out Beilein or sulking about JB when Beilein tried to coach him up. I think he was just so into the game and frustrated with what happened on the court, that he always had that kind of aloof scowl.

    • Jeff

      I don’t put any stock in this. If he’s smart at all, which I think he is, he recognizes what a tremendously positive effect Beilein has had on his game. Competitive players sometimes butt heads with their coaches. I’ve seen this happen with Izzo many times.

  • MichBball

    “He will not go any higher next year, the draft is deep and their are an equal amount
    of quality point guards”

    So being an early second round pick in an extremely weak draft class is equivalent to being an early second round in an extremely strong draft class? If he gets drafted in the second round next year, he’ll be more likely to earn a contract, rather than (possibly) struggling to earn one this year.

  • pyrrhic

    I’m ok with him leaving as long as its for the right reasons. I think that with an extra year of development for the young guys and two guards bringing up the ball, we’ll be just fine. We definitely won’t have a prolific point on the roster, and I think that we’ll probably have an even slower pace than we did this past season, but with Beilein fostering the development, we’ll be just fine.
    If losing one guard, even if its DMo, starts bringing about doubts, look to last year and what people thought when Manny and Peedi left. DMo stepped up just like someone else will next season if he leaves.
    Watch out for Eso, I think he’s going to start having a much bigger role next year.

  • Quick Darshan

    I think a lot depends on his financial situation. There will likely be a lockout. So, if he’s going to improve his game, he’s going to need to hire a trainer and do it on his own. I assume that’s expensive.

    Next year’s draft will be deeper, but I still see him going in the first round if he can improve his shooting.

  • MaceoBaston

    From all accounts, Darius comes from a good family and isn’t in dire need of money. I know the NBA is his dream, but why not come back and develop a jump shot, his left hand and leadership skills. I agree his stock will probably be the same because next year’s draft will be deeper, but at least he’ll be a better player I would think

  • http://www.offtackleempire.com GregGoBlue

    Does it seem so absurd that Morris continues in his trend of stellar offseason improvement, finally gets the first team All Big-Ten he deserved this season and improves his draft stock tremendously? Isn’t that what all logical signs would point to if he decided to stay?

    • Dylan Burkhardt

      One of the big counter arguments is that next year’s draft will probably be much stronger. So hypothetically Morris would have to improve 10 spots to tread water.

      • georgeesq.

        Re: next years draft, there are predictions that the NBA will limit the draft to players with TWO or more years in college instead of one under the new CBA. That would remove guys like Austin Rivers from next year’s draft. So it might not be a stronger draft, and you have to analyze by position to some extent, as well. What other PGs would be coming out next year? It’s all academic, anyway. I expect Darius to be gone.

        • rook34

          Not actually. Any agreement won’t be done until late this year at the earliest, and will likely exclude the Rivers draft class, not going into effect until the incoming class Fall 2012. The NBA would be hit with a massive class-action lawsuit othersies

          Rivers, Gilchrist, and all the others will be in next year’s draft as one and dones. Any collectively bargained change won’t hit until the following season at the earliest.

  • Tweeter

    Rivals 150 updated: http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/rankings/rank-2288

    Brundidge checks in as a 4 star at 104. Burke looks like he fell to 142 and is a 3 star. Dont know how anyone could watch that kid play and think there are 141 better players. I am not saying this as a homer or that he should be a 5 star top 20 player, but this to me just screams that someone has no clue or did absolutely no homework.

    • Ben

      Rivals doesn’t look much outside the top 50……Burke moved up to the top 100 on Scouts final rankings and is now a 4 star player. Brundidge is in the scout top 100 too and Max Beifeldt is a 3 star on scout, he was previously not ranked at all.

      • Anton

        I feel like ESPN does the best job with basketball recruiting. Exact opposite in football.

  • Junk Yard Dog

    *Morris will not make an NBA team for the 2011-2012 season if he stays in draft. I will be at Ann Arbor Bar of choice to collect or pay up! Please remember this post!

    • jmblue

      With “fans” like this, why should he stay here?

      • http://oystermonkey.blogspot.com/ lfj75

        Thank you. I’m getting pretty tired of the negativity being directed at Morris.

  • KJay

    The one thing that could benefit Darius from coming back is if he’s able to lead the team to some real success, both in the regular season and the tourney. If, as a result, he could boost his status as a real floor general and a *leader*, he could become even more attractive draft-wise, despite his physical limitations. .

    • Eric

      I agree, many scouts/writers were surprised D-Mo declared because maybe many hadn’t seen him play too much. Michigan really wasn’t on the national stage until the tail end of the season. If we are preseason top 10 or 15 and contend for the Big Ten title throughout the season, the publicity he receives from being the leader of a really solid team will help him.

      • DoubES

        This sounds plausible, but while the teams and their scouts haven’t had a whole season to scout him, they have had a couple months to see him in the tourney and look at the tape. I’ve gotta think that the teams that have interest in drafting him have done their homework by now.

  • Mattski

    I’ve maybe been a bigger believer in Darius than some people, so I see real NBA upside and a crushing loss for Michigan if he goes. There’s a playful element about his game that you can’t teach, and which will help fill NBA seats. I trust he’s getting good information, and recognize that there are a lot of factors that we may never know about–family finances, real feelings about the team, distance from home, what scouts tell him in private. You also have to figure that, since he’s right on the cusp, one or two players dropping out may put him in the first round. I won’t be surprised if he goes.

    But I see us having to be a scrappy team again rather than a finesse team if Darius does leave, struggling for fourth or fifth in the B10. Don’t expect Burke to fill the absence quickly, to have Darius’ great vision or height. Darius is the proverbial bird in the hand, the rest is unknown. Sigh. I would just love to see Michigan really kick some pants for a whole season, get this thing solidly on track. It’s a blow for recruiting too, I am convinced.

    • gpsimms

      i agree with your take on darius making the league here. i’m pretty much a playoff only nba fan, so i guess i don’t really know, but darius had an nba body the minute he got here. when i saw how much he had improved his game, i felt certain he’d have a career in the league. i hope he stays, but i think he’ll have success regardless of what he decides.

      all of this ‘no left hand, can’t shoot!’ business is funnny to me. did we not just see him fix many, many, many of his flaws over one offseason? in fact, his left hand even improved during the season. he seriously went left not once in all non-conference. but against some pretty talented big ten guards, he showed some flashes of improving his strength on that side of the hoop.

      from a michigan fan perspective, i don’t think what he meant to this team, or next year’s team, can be overstated. it was in 2009 when a highly rated, exciting, more-physically-bigten-ready-than-trey-burke couldn’t even fill CJ lee’s shoes. (not a knock on CJ, who had as much to do with beilein’s first tournament team as anyone).

      I couldn’t be more excited for burke and brundidge, but we’ve seen what happens when you replace competent (or in this case, outstanding) point play with stu douglass/a true freshman.

      • MiamiWolv

        Best case without Morris is we finish 3rd, and make a small step forward, maybe a 6 or 7 seed in March.

        Worst case is we can’t find a replacement for Morris, and we plummet back to the Northwestern-Minnesota tier and into the NIT.

  • Brick

    I don’t think it really matters much what these guys are hearing right now. I think the situation is probably pretty simple. Darius is apparently going to the mass workout and if he does really well he will go pro. If he doesn’t do well he will return to Michigan.

  • Anton

    kid is making a huge mistake and i hate it. Oh well

  • Dave

    Unless he’s a sure first round pick, he should not go pro. So as Brick points out, it all depends on how well he does in the workout. I’m a big fan of Darius and believe he has a great shot no matter what he does but he improves his chances by staying in school unless he’s a first round lock.

    As for Michigan without DMo next year? At best, Burke and Brundidge are ready to fill DMo’s shoes fairly quickly and they tread water – DMo would be even better next year. The most likely scenario is that they remain a middle of the road Big Ten team and bubble or NIT team without DMo next year. With him, they are likely in the top three of the Big Ten and a solid tourney team with a likely Sweet Sixteen finish.

    Hope he stays.

  • Polisci

    While I love Morris and want to have him back, I think most people seem to be forgetting the rest of the team. The team next year is nothing like the team two years ago. There is a big difference between a soph. Novak/Douglas and senior Novak/Douglas. There is a big difference between freshman Vogrich and junior Vogrich. There is a big difference between a non-existent Metrics and a soph. Metrics. There is a big difference between an injured freshman Morgan and a redshirt soph Morgan. There is a big difference between non-existent Horford and a soph. Horford. There is a bid difference between non-existent THJr and a soph. THJr.

    Morgan and THJr are equal to Harris and Sims, while the supporting cast (even without Morris) is significantly better.

    Losing Morris will hurt, but to suggest that it might send us back to the bottom the B10 is absurd. This team will still be deeper and more experienced than any I other M team can think of in the recent past.

    • ScottGoBlue

      If you have no reliable PG, you will certainly plummet to the bottom of the conference, no matter how much talent you have at the other positions. It’s like saying having a true frosh QB won’t hurt you that bad because you’ve got so much talent at WR. (Wonders to self) “What real life college team could I insert here as proof of this comparison? Hmmm …”

      Okay, so if Morris is borderline this year trending towards 2nd Round, and next year’s draft class is stronger than this year’s … WHAT ABOUT STICKING AROUND ALL 4 YEARS!?

      (I know, I know … I’m actually trying to quit my crack habit)

    • Mattski

      Actually, Poliscim, posts above say MIDDLE of the B10. And we were middle of the B10 THIS year. I look forward to everyone’s development, but Darius could was–what–one of the 4, 5 best distributors in the country. AND he got to the rim, where he scored.

      With luck Darius sticks around. I had a good night’s sleep, so I’m hopeful again!

  • ScottGoBlue

    I should say, Burke may be ready to go Day 1 in Ann Arbor. It seems unlikely because that’s a tall order for a true frosh, but it could happen. In which case we’d compete for a top spot in the B10.

    I just think the more likely scenario is that (without Morris) we’ll spend most of next year getting Burke up to speed as a 30+ minute starting PG, backed up by several guys who aren’t starting PG material (Douglass, maybe Eso, maybe Brundidge). The PG makes the offense go, so all our other guys may not get to cash in much on their improvements if we don’t have someone who can fill those shoes every night from Day 1.

  • Section13Row15

    If Beilein made the tournament with 2 walk-on guards in 2008, then why can’t we make it again with a true freshman guard in 2011-12? Darius isn’t gone yet either, we still have another week or so to find out. And who really cares if we’re pre-season top 25 anyway. It means nothing. And someone please tell me how Darius Morris going pro will hurt recruiting?

    • georgeesq.

      This is a good point. The Big 10 will not be as strong this season as last. We have everyone else but DMo returning. There is hope.

      • WingedKnight

        I think even the most pessimistic people would still say we have a solid chance at making the tourney. Where the frustration is coming from is that a lot of people, myself included, see next year’s team with D-Mo as a really special team that could bring UM back to prominence.

        Also, what has me the most frustrated is seeing the UNC trio of lottery picks, Jones from Baylor, and worst of all Sullinger returning to school when Darius is nowhere as good a prospect as them.

  • bird

    One thing’s for sure, if he leaves, I’ll never see him play basketball again. The NBA product sucks to begin with, and now with this over 18 rule … I’m often just left shaking my head. WTF? I really don’t know how they get away with this blatant age discrimination. Someone sue!!

    Plain and simple, the NBA mucks up the college game. With the over 18 rule, and in general, the NBA knows (thinks) that if they force the best players to play at least a little college ball, they’ll entice fans of college basketball to follow the players’ pro careers, which translates into a diversified audience that will drive advertising revenue (i.e., they can sell more ads for Lexus, ING and Viagra and not just Nike, PS3 and Gatorade). That’s the reason. It has nothing to do with what’s best for the teams or the players. I’m not going to do it. I’m not going to look. I didn’t watch the Bulls with Jordan and I’m not watching them with Rose. I’m sure it’s awesome to see sometimes, but I can’t do it. The D-league’s a start, but I wish they’d support a real “minor league” system that would leave the college game to the kids who want to go to college and let the kids who want to play for money play for money. I know it would deplete the talent, but who cares? I’d rather watch slightly less talented kids play for four years and see scholarships go to kids who really want the chance to use athletics as a means to acquire an education that they simply wouldn’t have access to otherwise. I guess I wish Bobby Knight ran the world of basketball.

    Rant over. Still hope Darius comes back.

    • Trevor

      “The NBA product sucks to begin with…”
      “I didn’t watch the Bulls with Jordan and I’m not watching them with Rose.”

      I acknowledge that some people would rather watch a high school marching band than the Miles Davis Quintet. But I’ll never understand it.

      • bird

        My common-father-in-law is a big NBA fan and was in town when the Bulls played the Heat this season and I was forced to watch the game. (I remember that Northwestern was playing Penn State at the same time, and when I suggested watching that instead I got a look like I was from Mars.) That was the first time I’d ever seen LeBron play (or Rose since Memphis’s 2008 tourney run that wasn’t). Holy $#!%! I don’t know if I’ve ever seen that kind of athleticism. Don’t get me wrong, I know they are amazing. It’s just that I love college basketball – I don’t know if I can articulate it, but yes, in part because of its “inferiority” (I’m sure some people DO understand) – and I think its relationship with the NBA taints the game and I wish it were different, especially when Michigan’s breakout point guard is a casualty. But hey, I also wish we lived in a tea party-free world, but what are you gonna do? Come to grips with the situation and cope, I guess.

  • Beilein’s Swish

    Sounds like he’s gone….oh well, still hope he comes back. I think the team will be fine next year, however the ceiling will have to be lowered significantly without Darius. Having an inexperienced freshman and Stu at the point will definitely stunt the team. The two times since Beilein has been here that he didn’t have good/experienced point guard play, the seasons were absolute disasters. The reverse was the case in the two seasons with good/experienced point guard play.

    I think there’s enough talent on the team to finish in the middle of the pack for the Big Ten (with Darius I think we would be a top 3 Big Ten team) next year without Darius. Just have to re-set expectations in case Darius leaves. I was so looking forward to having multiple ballhandlers on the court next year, but that’s life.

  • Alex

    Lots of unknowns for next year so I think it’s way too early to think we’re screwed or made. I do think it is unwise to underestimate this team.

  • Kool Breeze

    If D-Mo is ready for the NBA, then I have no idea what it takes to get to the league. The cat was a third team big ten player, can’t consistently hit the long range jumper, isn’t quick for a NBA point guard, and will not be able to post up guards in the NBA. What am I missing?

  • http://umhoops.com OneEyeWilly

    instead of criticising morris how about lifting him. Everyone wants to point his weaknesses and expose what he can’t do. I think morris is a great player even though he doesn’t have the best jump shot or the most skilled point guard. But in all honesty he’s leaving lol. So cut it with the negativity TB’s gonna come in and run a great team TRUST ME I KNOW

  • redman345

    darius morris is a great point guard.he is just testing the waters,dont worry hes coming back.even if he leaves give him credit.the opportunity only comes one time.if he comes back and have a bad year he could destroy his confidence and his draft stock which isnt that high.so why not leave when you can.what if an injury comes.what if trey burke or carlton comes in and still his shine.which i think they will.take advantage of college.dont let it take advantage of you.make the best decision.a decision that you will not regret no matter what the outcome maybe.do whats best for darius…good luck boy.i wish him the best

  • redman345

    we will do fine with or without him.michigan basketball is back believe that.with darius coming back he could lose some minutes and some assist.so he would have to limit his turnovers,he cant have bad shoting games.you have trey burke who is going to play 15-25 minutes a game carlton playing 15.michigan will have 7 guards including zack.its going to be a hard decision.i hope he comes back.but if doesnt.trey burke is ready.and carlton is a beast.just watch carlton is a bull.hes going to stay in the paint.and you want be able to stay in front of him or trey burke.not to mention you cant leave trey opened or you will get treyed.im excited michigan is back believe that

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