Report Card 2011: Stu Douglass

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MPG PPG eFG% 3FG% APG RPG Ortg Usage
30.4 7.1 51.9 35.8 1.7 3.0 97.3 14.80%

Stu Douglass seems to be a common scape goat among Michigan fans but, by the time his career is over, he’s on pace to be ranked among the top 10 Wolverines in minutes played and top 5 in three point field goals made. His junior year was his most productive statistical season to date, despite shifting between various roles. Douglass opened the season as the sixth man, providing a shooting boost off the bench. He played more minutes as the season progressed, eventually moving into the starting lineup and growing into Michigan’s primary perimeter defender as well.  Many Michigan players saw their roles change throughout the season but Douglass’ shift was the most dramatic.

The Good:

  • Defense: Douglass was Michigan’s best perimeter defender by a wide margin. He was tasked with guarding players like Kalin Lucas, Talor Battle and Demetri McCamey and, for the most part, did a great job. He’s not Travis Walton or Chris Kramer by any means. He’s not the longest or quickest player but Douglass is great running through screens and guarding players off of the ball. He was the best defender on the Michigan roster this season.
  • Shooting: Douglass didn’t have a great shooting year but it was the best of his career: 49% on twos and 36% on threes for a 51.9% effective field goal percentage. For comparison, Stu’s eFG% the last two seasons were 47.4% (so.) and 50.3% (fr.). Those are good but not “lights out” great shooting numbers.
  • Experience & Leadership: Douglass isn’t a passionate rah-rah guy like Zack Novak but he made large strides as a leader this season. His defense sets an example but he also did a number of little things from time to time whether it was grabbing 10 rebounds versus Kansas or 7 versus Illinois or handing out five assists versus Tennessee. The bottom line is that the Stu Douglass that we saw over the last two months of the season seemed to have a bigger chip on his shoulder – grabbing impressive rebounds, diving for loose balls and playing physically defensively.

Room for Improvement:

  • Playing Point Guard: Douglass is not a point guard and it’s best for everyone if he plays off the ball. Unfortunately, he was still forced to spell Morris for stretches this season. His passing numbers were down, assisting just 11% of Michigan’s made field goals when on the floor, but part of that was the fact that he didn’t have to play on the ball as often this season. Stu is a smart player that knows the offense but he still looked uncomfortable facing full court pressure and wouldn’t play point guard in a perfect world.
  • Free Throws: This problem is two-fold. First, Douglass never got to the line. His free throw rate (FTA/FGA) is jaw-droppingly low at just 5.5%, or 13 FTA to 238 FGAs. Second, he doesn’t make his limited opportunities count, knocking down just 3 of those 13 free throws or 23% of his attempts. Douglass was 21/27 and 19/28 in his sophomore and freshman years, so perhaps this is some sort of sample size anomaly but it was certainly painful.
  • Shot Selection: Stu’s shooting mechanics are very good but he limits his shooting numbers by taking far too many ill advised attempts. There’s no metric to measure this – unless we had shot charts for the entire season – but as a senior it would be great to see Douglass be a bit more selective before letting them fly.

Shining Moment: Stu’s two late baskets in East Lansing take the prize here. A pull-up jumper with four minutes to play and a deep three to ice the game with with 20 seconds left (bigger than his three versus UCLA?). They are worthy of video:

Runner-up: 19 points on 7 of 10 (5-7) three point shooting versus Harvard, a game Michigan doesn’t win without Douglass’ production. Video.

Stu’s transition from sixth man to starter didn’t necessarily go smoothly from an individual perspective. As Douglass began playing more minutes, his shooting efficiently declined steadily. Michigan also started winning games. The Wolverines were 7-4 in the games that Douglass started down the stretch and he saw his minutes increase significantly during Michigan’s late season run. Still, this graph is a bit sobering:

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The graph also raises some interesting questions about Stu Douglass’ role going forward. What benefits Douglass? What benefits Michigan? How many minutes should he play next season? There is a large external component to this equation that relies on the other pieces in Michigan’s backcourt.

  1. Does Darius Morris enter the NBA draft or return to school?
  2. Are the freshmen guards ready to play? Offensively but more importantly defensively.
  3. Where does Zack Novak play the majority of his minutes? The two or the four? This is closely related to Evan Smotrycz’s development, something we’ll focus on in later report cards.

In an ideal world, Douglass would play somewhere around 25 minutes per game, all at the two position. That really seems like it would be the sweet spot, keeping him fresh enough to play a role offensively without taxing him by having him chase the opponents best player for 35 minutes  This isn’t really a knock on Douglass, playing fewer minutes feels like a move that would make him a significantly more efficient offensive player.

The sticking point is that, in order for Douglass to play fewer minutes, Michigan’s perimeter defense has to improve across the board. Darius Morris, Zack Novak, Trey Burke, Carlton Brundidge and Matt Vogrich are the players most likely to play minutes at the one and two next season. None of the upperclassmen are necessarily known as great perimeter defenders and it’s tough to expect any freshmen to be a lockdown defender.

If 25 minutes per game is the best case scenario, the worst case scenario would be that Morris goes pro and Douglass is forced to split time at the point guard position with Trey Burke. That would be a situation eerily similar to Michigan circa 2009-10, when Douglass was forced to play major minutes at the point guard and struggled all season.

Douglass’ 2010-11 season was up and down but his defensive performance during the last two months of the year was extremely impressive. He’s not a perfect player but he’s willfully accepted whatever role this team has required. Ideally he’ll finally be able to grow into a role that is catered toward his strengths and really allows him to blossom into an efficient offensive player as a senior.

  • ScottGoBlue

    Dylan, great write up. I agree that Stu gets more than his fair share of flack. I also had the sense that he was playing better when he was coming off the bench. But the team played better when he started (I think because Evan just needed more time to develop and get comfortable). Catch 22.

    More importantly … how come the report cards are sans-grades so far?

    • Dylan Burkhardt

      We’ve done grades in the past but it’s too challenging to come with any sort of criteria. Do you base it on overall play, based on expectations, etc. Perhaps these should be called something like “season in review” rather than “report card”…

      • ScottGoBlue

        Makes sense. What about “Player Recap”?

        • gobluetwo

          Or a Performance Review. Too corporate-sounding? =)

      • ScottGoBlue

        One other thought: what about sticking with “Report Card” and giving each player 2 or 3 grades, then a cumulative grade based on those? So, for example, one grade each for:

        – “Performance versus Expectation”
        – “Performance versus Peers” … like, how does he stack up against similar Big Ten players
        – [and/or] “Overall Performance”
        – [and/or] “Intangibles” (e.g. demonstrated toughness, leadership, energy, etc)

        Then a cumulative grade. So, maybe Stu Douglass gets the following:
        – B (not as offensively potent as expected, more defensively effective than expected)
        – B- (not the best 2 guard in the league, especially in terms of points; but not a liability either, and makes a d)
        – Cumulative grade = B

        More work for you, I realize. But it would fit the “Report Card” theme.

        • jmblue

          Maybe just “Evaluation”?

  • Champswest

    Dylan, I think you nailed this one. I expect Darius to return for 1 more season. Coach Beilein will be forced to play Burke at the point (he is probably more than willing to play him anyway) to get him ready for next year. This frees Stu to play all or most of his 20-25 minutes at the #2. I would expect the #2 minutes to go something like: Stu = 20, Zack = 15, Brundridge = 5. Zack wil pick up additional minutes at the #4 (and, maybe the #3) when Beilein wants to go small. Stu is somewhat under-valued by most and will still be an important part of next years squad.

    • Beilein’s Swish

      In an ideal world, like you mentioned, Stu would play 20-25 minutes at the 2. He’s a streaky shooter, so when he’s on he can play more minutes, but hopefully we’ll have other players that are ready to take his minutes when he’s not on.

      Unfortunately, I have been thinking about the other scenario if Darius does end up leaving and Stu ends up as our default point-guard with a freshman point guard as the other primary ball-handler. If that’s the case, that’ll bring really bad memories from 2009-2010 back and the ceiling for next season could be what the team accomplished this year (bubble team at best).

  • Tweeter

    I think you asked the two most important questions: whats best for Stu? and, whats best for Michigan? I think that the people that get upset with Douglass are only answering the first question. Douglass is at his best offensively, when he is a spark plug player. He is such a streak shooter, that when is on, he is terrific. But the reverse is also true from an offensive perspective.

    However, when you answer the second question, you see that it was vitally important to Michigan to have Douglass in there as much as possible. The team was by far better especially defensively when they played the small lineup.

    What does this mean for next season? I believe it depends more on the development of Smotrycz (or whoever else besides Novak) at the 4 position more than it depends on the play of the incoming guards. If Smotrycz can improve to the point where he is a reliable defender at the 4, then I would imagine we see Douglass move back to sixth man except in situations where the other team starts small as well. Either way Douglass is going to continue to be a major contributor because he is a versatile player.

    • Dylan Burkhardt

      Ideally what’s best for Stu will be best for the team. Meaning everyone else steps up their defense so we don’t need Douglass to play so much.

  • Trevor

    I don’t disagree with the statement that 25 min/game would be a good number for Stu, but I’d be careful to infer too much from the above graph. I think what the graph shows is a very hot start for Stu, and then a regression to the mean while his minutes increase.

    A more telling graph would be a scatterplot of his efg% and minutes played for every game (rather than his to-date season averages as the season progressed), maybe weighted by number of field goal attempts. I’m not sure such a graph would show a similar relationship between efficiency and minutes; some of Stu’s most efficient scoring games came when he played 30+ minutes (Harvard, Concordia, Purdue, @Northwester, @Minnesota, Tennessee).

    • Dylan Burkhardt

      Perhaps. But I also think that it correlates with his increased defensive role and just wearing down.

      • Trevor

        Good point — I really hadn’t thought about the cumulative effect of playing a lot of minutes. Still, though, I think graphs with to-date season averages over time can show trends where they may or may not actually exist. Does the sharp dip in early January and subsequent slow decline represent steadily declining performance, or does it represent a relatively stable performance against better competition? (i.e. maybe his lower efficiencies against strong competition steadily eroded the high efficiency numbers he built up early against relatively weak competition.) It’s really hard to answer this question looking at to-date season averages (as opposed to seasonal splits).

  • JimC

    That video is awesome, one of the highlights from a thrilling season.
    (As is Kung-fu Fighting, which follows Stu’s money shot video)

    My only comment is that frankly I don’t see Stu as a “leader” per se, because he usually seems so stoic on the court, like he’s trying to stay in his shooter’s zone. I have zero problem with that.

    • gobluetwo

      I don’t necessarily think that outward displays make a leader. He could be a great mentor to the younger players, show strong character off the court, and put in great effort in practice. He could lead in other ways. I’ll just assume that he does!

  • Suavdaddy

    I don’t know what category this goes into, but I think it needs to go somewhere. Stu’s biggest problem I thought was his drives to the hoop. He would drive into the lane, often under the basket, with no shot possible and jump in the air hoping to find an open man. This would as often lead to a turnover as an assist. It was infuriating. The drive and leap is a very risky play. If I were coaching against him I would tell people to sag off and pick off his passes.

    • Other Matt

      That’s actually coached. I was listening to an interview with Coach Beilein back towards the beginning of the season and a caller said he’d noticed our guys jumping out of bounds when driving through the lane or from the baseline. It’s something they apparently picked up from the European game, but the guards have been coached to do it. I can’t remember what options he said they were looking for by doing that, maybe somebody else can fill in the blank.

      • Brad

        I don’t know about options, but it does have some benefits as well as the risk…the leap creates space and a better field of vision, so you can see passes you would not have been able to before and get them off cleanly…however, you only have a split second to see, recognize and deliver the ball or it’s gonna be a turnover, so it’s a tough play to make, but does open up more options if someone can react quickly

  • Colby

    Hey Dylan, I do not like doing what ifs but if Darius does come back for 1 more year what position do you think the staff targets in 12? Wing or Big Man? Looks like they will probably take a PG in 13. Thanks

    • Beast1530

      I think it’s wing player in the mold of Javonte Hawkins, Dom Pointer, Casey Prather

  • Section13Row15

    Early in the season I could definitely tell that he had expanded his game over the summer with respect to putting the ball on the floor and getting to the rim, but towards the end of the season it seemed like he went back to his old ways of just being a perimeter shooter. And to Dylan’s point I think there is some merit to him wearing down a bit because 90% of his misses were barely glancing off the front of the rim, meaning his legs were probably tired. I believe that Stu can do more than what he’s shown and I think he’ll have a good senior year as long as he can keep his mind right.

  • gpsimms

    I don’t think other guards picking up the d will be a huge deal. Remember Darius’ freshman year he got defensive MVP (I’m guessing it was more of a “we need you next year kid, so take this award and be motivated to work hard” kind of award, but still I think he can defend). Anyway his defense this year was borderline bad, but not for lack of effort/ability/strength/athleticism. It was just the fact that every trip on offense he was moving so hard and absorbing so much contact, etc.

    I think the arrival of (hopefully) a competent back up at the one will make Darius a top player on both ends of the court, not just a dynamic scoring/distributing guard.

    Anyway, a lot of teams had trouble guarding us this year, but I think that next year with more age, strength and depth this team grows even more on D than it did during the course of this past season.

    • ZRL

      I actually think Darius is our best defender, as shown by his excellent perimeter defense his Freshman year. However, with Dmo taking such a huge role on offense, he doesn’t have the energy to also play look down defense for 35+ minutes, so Stu gets the task of guarding the opposition’s best guard instead.

      • UM Hoops Fan

        No, and it’s not even close. Darius plays good defense at times, and may have the best upside as a defender with his combination of length and strength, but he gets lots going around screens, loses his man, not provide the right help, etc, far more often than Stu. If you paid attention, opposing players often scored the majority of their points when Stu was out of the game or when there was a switch.

        • ZRL

          I think we are trying to make the same point. Most of Darius’s poor defense this year was due to exerting so much energy on offense that he didn’t really have any energy left to chase his man around screens, etc. If you look back at his Freshman year, however, you will see that Darius has the potential to be our best defender when he puts his mind to it.

      • gpsimms

        i agree with you physically, and that was exactly the point of my post. dmo will be better on both ends of the court when he doesn’t burn all his gas, so to speak, on the offensive end.

        but i also agree with um hoops fan below that mentally stu is more focused on d. but part of that could still be because of all the stress he is under on the offensive end.

        either way, the point i was trying to make was that the team as a whole will be better defensively because there is depth everywhere. sometimes guys will play 39 minutes, but no one should have to play 39 every night with our bench next year.

  • Dustin C.

    I think a lot of us aren’t necessarily down on Stu, just tired of watching him dribble all over the place with nowhere to go. Not his fault that he is in the wrong position. He also gives up a ton of offensive rebounds. Again, not his fault he is in the wrong position. Now that we have some help at PG for next year, Stu can go back to playing the 2 and being a sniper from the outside. I think the coaches had to play him where they did this year because there really wasn’t any other options which they will now have next year. Stu can shoot and I hope to see him do a lot of it his last year.

  • Kenny

    With the exception of Morris and Hardaway, it is so hard to guess where and how much everyone else get their minutes. A lot depend on how everybody develops over the summer, including Morris and Hardaway, and how fast the freshmen are ready to step in, what kind of change Beilein is going to install on both offensive and defense end, and how effective different line-ups play out as the season progresses. As we all observed in past seasons, major changes are often made in the middle of the season.

    Among all the returners, Stu and Novak are the two with least room to improve. They are both terrific players but next season may be the time to see their minutes finally reduced, for the good of the team. That said, I expect both still playing major minutes. With the addition of two freshman guards and Hardaway going inside more, I expect Stu be more as a parameter shooter but drive less into the lane.

    • Mith

      I agree about Novak and Douglass having their minutes reduced. They have done a fine job and I appreciate their time here, but if the younger(and possbily more talented) players are progressing then they deserve minutes too.

      • paul r

        Mark it down. NOVAK plays 35 minutes a game next year. no ifs, ands, or buts!! He is the leader of this team and a senior that others feed off of. Stu may drop a bit but not below 30. These are seniors guys, and they know the system and led us to a near second round upset of DUKE. We have more tallent now and that is great, but leadership and experience is hard to replace. Go Blue!

        • Mith

          Novak and Douglass didn’t lead us to a near upset of Duke. Morris and Hardaway are going to be the guys that drive this team to success along with the continuing improvement of Morgan, Smotz, Burke, Brundridge, etc.

          Novak and Douglass are glue guys and I love them, but I don’t see why we have to guarantee them minutes because they are seniors. The best players should play and if Novak and Douglass aren’t the best(and I’m not saying they won’t be), then their minutes should be reduced.

  • Quick Darshan

    Seems like Brundidge is the eventual replacement for Stu, Burke is the eventual replacement for Morris and Bielfeldt is the eventual replacement for the power forward version of Novak.

  • Mattski

    I think that Stu will be harder to get off of the court than many people think. I think that during the 2nd half of the season he began to get over the hump where confidence is concerned; finally, he is not letting the occasional screw-up get to him. Next year, if both he and Novak raise their 3 percentage four-five points, this team is impossible to stop.

    It says something about fans’ skewed perception thatStu could be ragged on so mightily and still end up among the top 5 all-time M 3 pt. shooters. And he just is a great freaking defender, will be still better next year.

    Whoever thinks Darius was the better defender. . . I’m not sure what you were looking at. Now Darius has it in him to be a super-defender. But I’m pretty sure gpsimms is right; he was saving it–had to–for the other end of the court.

    Yes, Brundidge will see the court, but in order to supply a very different feel for the team. Stu will be there at crunch time.

    Thanks, Dylan, for reminding us how much Stu brought to this team.

  • Brian W

    Nice analysis of Stu’s season. He’s not perfect, but he puts in the work to make himself better. He worked hard last offseason, and his dribbling and driving improved. I’m sure he’ll work just as hard this offseason to get better… His streakiness can be a little frustrating, like in the Illinois road game where he was really cold, but he did hit some big shots, like on the road at MSU this year.

    Some people are clamoring to pay athletes, but this article on women’s basketball is a good reason why paying athletes doesn’t really make sense. I enjoy going to the U-M women’s basketball games with my niece, but it’s pretty obvious when you go to a women’s game at Crisler that the university isn’t raking in the money from tickets. This article sums up the situation for the women’s basketball pretty well…

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-04-01/women-s-basketball-teams-operate-in-red-as-salaries-break-college-budgets.html

  • Brian W

    I should probably clarify what I meant with the paying of athletes statement. The average deficit for a women’s basketball program was $2 million, so if the revenue sports have to pick up the tab for non-revenue sports at every Division I school, it would seem like it would be difficult to add pay to athletes on top of that.

  • mich is boss

    i think stu shouldnt play as much as novak next year. or even burke and brundidge. i mean he isnt a consistent scorer like i think burke and brundidge are

    • Tweeter

      before we start benching a three year, senior starter, lets see what these young kids can actually do in a game. I agree that both burke and brundidge have more upside than Douglass does, but that does not mean that either are going to be able or ready to contribute on a higher level than Douglass. Not to mention there is a whole other side of the floor that you have to be able to play on. We already know that Douglass can guard at a high level, can either of them?

      • um-nyc

        Totally agree. Let’s not forget that there is a learning curve when it comes to Beilien’s offense – so I fully exepct the minutes at the gaurd positions to remain similar to what they were this year until burke and brundidge demonstrate that they can be productive. That all might change towards the end of next season, but i fully expect to see Stu out there in late game situations because he’s a great defender. Defense is the reason we turned our season around this year and it will be a key to our success next year and into the future.

        • MikeSal

          Totally agree. Everyone is pegging Burke and Brundidge into big mins. We have the luxury now of letting these guys take some time to soak in all they are learning. They will be productive but lets let Stu and Zack play the big mins until they are ready. Remember…we have seniors now…so let’s use them…No matter what they say about Stu…everytime he puts a shot up it looks like it will be nothing but net!

  • Kainkitizen

    Stu is like watching Barry Sanders back in the day. You knew he could run and take off for a 40+ yard Run at any given moment of the game. The anticipation of Barry doing that is like watching Stu going lights out from behind the arc at any given moment. Hopefully everyone understands the point I’m trying to make with that. He is averaging 50+ 3pt made attempts in his 3 years. He’s on pace to reach 200+. Which would put him in the top 5. He is currently #7 on the list and Novak is #5.

    • Will Wheaton

      I’m sorry but I fail to see the comparison between barry sanders (one of the greatest NFL players of all time) and stu…How many times has stu gone “lights out” relative to barry sanders making an electric run or having a great game?? The sports aren’t even the same…I think it is difficult expectations and comparisions like this that make it difficult to appreciate contributions of players like stu. He is not a barry sanders, but he doesn’t need to be.

  • Section13Row15

    I don’t think Novak’s minutes will be reduced at all.

    • bluerev

      You don’t see Novak’s minutes reduced at all… tho
      1. UM adds two guys that can play his postions (Brunridge and Beilfeldt);
      2-3. Smotrycz transitions from freshman to sophomore after being a star his last few games and is now exclusively available for the 4 spot since Horford is healthy, bigger and also soph (as is McLimans and Christian);
      4. Michigan will be just plain better meaning some leads in games where we can rest starters and devlop underclassmen?
      I think Novak averages 30 mpg, which is plenty for anyone, but as hard as he plays and against bigger guys some still–no reason to play him consitently 35+ anymore.

    • Kenny

      not the place to discuss Novak, but it is no secret that Beilein would like to go big if he can. I would like to see young post players step up next season and Beilein does not have to play Novak at 4 30+ minutes a game.

  • mich is boss

    well yes he is a great defender. but, he turns it over, isnt a great ball handler, and he barely ever gets hot. burke and brundidge are faster and more prolific scorers. i have seen burke in person and i think that he is a better offensive player and not quite as good on defense

  • rlc

    I think Beilein would prefer to play Douglass and Novak no more than 25 minutes a game, but it’s not going to happen unless Vogrich and the underclassmen can score and especially defend at a high enough level. Whether this happens will partly depend on what defenses we play.

    Most of the late season heroics of Vogrich and Smotrycz were made possible by the team playing more zone. If we keep doing that (and we don’t need the seniors on the court to make the zone work), then I could see more minutes for Vogrich and Smotrycz. I don’t think Vogrich will ever be effective as a man-to-man defender, but with some improvement Smotrycz might be able to check opposing 4s.

    Christian could take some of Novak’s minutes at the 4 if he can produce something on the offensive end. He may have enough of a jumper to pick and pop.with the ball handlers.

    The minutes for the freshmen will depend on how soon they can play Division I defense. Although it takes a while to get Beilein’s offense, Burke and Brundidge both have the individual skills and the basketball IQ to be useful even without fully grasping the whole scheme – much like Hardaway was for the first part of this season. Until they can D it up, though, they won’t see much of the court.

    By the way, this is the downside of the Maui Invitational – the quality of the competition is going to keep us from giving the freshmen and the projects as much floor time as we usually would in November games.

  • grandchamp

    Bulletin board material from Draymond Green:

    “I have to go with the loss to Michigan because that’s gonna stick with me forever right here (pointing to heart). Like, it hurts so bad, I didn’t know the feeling because I’d never lost to them prior to this year. And then to lose twice, it still bothers me. Because it’s Michigan and I hate, just, it makes them feel like they’re better than us. After them not winning at the Breslin for like 13 years, however long it was. And now they feel like this is their state. And this is Michigan State’s state. We own this state, it’s our state. And it gives them the hope and a crazy reason to think this is their state. And I completely disagree with that 100 percent.”

    • TheYooper

      Haha have fun next year Draymond. That’s all I have to say.

    • Mith

      Oh that is priceless. Right up there with Lunardi’s Tennessee prediction.

    • UM Hoops Fan

      Green is 3-2 vs Michigan. It would be nice to see him leave with a losing record against UM.

  • AG2

    How did this guy *ever* think about coming to Michigan?

    • jmblue

      Well, he’s now had three years of exposure to Izzo and his pure blinding hatred of Michigan. It’s probably hard for that not to rub off on you.

  • Bluebufoon

    Don’t know how U-M find room but Europeanprospects.com resports Michigan and Boston College are the top two schools for German Patrick Heckmann. Interesting recruiting nuggett.

    “As Heckmann has finished his season with TV Langen a few days ago, he will most likely be on some visits in the next days and weeks. The 1992 born player averaged this season 12.0ppg (53.5% 2FGs – 32.0% 3FGs – 81.1% FTs), 3.4rpg, 3.3apg, 1.3spg, 2.5topg in the third German League. He gets interest from lots of High Majors at the moment and it looks like Michigan and Boston College are the main names according to recent rumors.”

    http://www.europeanprospects.com/leagues/2010-2011/ncaa-tournament/ncaa-euro-update-final4-recruiting-draft-news/#more-2591

    • aMaized

      It’d be interesting… would someone redshirt? I recall TBurke’s dad saying something about him being ok to possibly redshirt but I can’t find the article. I agree with comments from others too about needing PF that can dominate the post. But great perimeter play reduces that need. We an outstanding PG and a great Wing player so let’s see. 2011-2012 will be interesting.

      • georgeesq.

        Redshirting a player would not free up a scholarship for Heckmann. At the moment, there is no room for him.

    • Kenny

      he is on the radar since last summer, not sure if he is 2011 or 2012. no room for him this year unless Morris is heading to NBA. Although it doesn’t help the scholarship situation, i don’t see Burke and Brundridge redshirting. They need get some preparation for playing big minutes in 2012.

      I know that everyone is looking for a dominant 4, the little dog might be the answer.

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