Friday Recruiting Open Thread

Dylan Burkhardt
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With several important recruiting events on today’s docket, we decided to start a recruiting open thread. The schedule:

  • 1:00 p.m.: Carlton Brundidge and Southfield face Kalamazoo Central in Michigan state semifinals. (Streaming video here)
  • 4:30 p.m.: Max Bielfeldt announces college decision between Michigan and Illinois. We’re cautiously optimistic here. There’s plenty U-M optimism but the x-factor is still Bielfeldt’s strong family connections to the University of Illinois.
  • 8:30 p.m.: Trey Burke and Northland face Trey Lewis (PSU) and Garfield Heights in Ohio state semifinals.
  • JD

    Good idea! I’ll be checking in.

  • ish

    if bielfeldt comes, redshirt?

    • JB…

      I really don’t think he will redshirt

  • Ryan

    Are Southfield and Northland supposed to win today?

  • YpsiTuckyBoy

    ish – they wouldn’t redshirt Bielfeldt. No reason to, especially for a guy who is somewhat of a fringe prospect. You don’t want him using up a scholly for five years, instead of the typical four.

    • gordie bell

      I dunno, we did redshirt Mclimans, but then again he wasn’t ready physcially, whereas Bielfeldt appears to be ready physically.

      • sven

        Unless he’s gonna be good enough to come right in and play 10-15 minutes a game I would redshirt him just to put a year between him and our current logjam of bigs. Quite frankly I don’t think he will be ready. He might have the size but I don’t think he has the skill or athleticism to come right in and play. I see him as a 2 or 3 year project at best,

      • JD

        McLimans averaged something like 10 points a game in prep school, though.

    • Kenny

      the fifth year is never obligated, e.g. Ant Wright.

      • Kenny

        you red-shirt a kid if you expect him to be more valuable as a 5th year senior than a true freshman. In McLimans cases, the verdict is not out yet. It may take another year for him to be ready.

        • JD

          Right now, Blake’s Zack Gibson without a jumpshot. He shot over 50% from inside the arc, though.

          I really hope he takes on playing like a big man and not just settling for the 3 because it’s open. When you are 1 for 20 from 3, they are going to leave you open. At the very least, he could get stronger and be a force on D. He can block shots.

          • gordie bell

            Mclimans has a phenomenal outlet, I forget who it was against, but he was under his own basket and threw a two handed, over the head, accurate, length of the court outlet. Very impressive, unfortunately I don’t think he will be a good enough rebounder to take advantage of his skill.

  • Bill

    No offense to Brundidge, but I just could not be more excited for Burke. His highlight video was tremendous. Really pretty shot, good handle, attacks the basket. Can’t wait to have him on the squad.

  • gordie bell

    Thanks for putting up a link to stream, gonna tune in for sure.

  • Dylan Burkhardt

    Carlton Brundidge was voted to the Class A all-state team. http://bit.ly/hkeLZJ

    • Tom

      I’m excited for Brundidge! Watching Kemba Walker and Shelvin Mack last night, I hope Carlton is in the same vein as these two talented and muscular guards.

  • michballer

    Trey burke the next Allen Iverson? Cant remember being so excited for a recruit to come in.. Wouldnt be suprised if this kid starts for us next year at the SG position… Go Blue!!!

    • JD

      He doesn’t really look like a Me First player like The Canswer was.

      • michballer

        Im just talking from a Talent and size perspective… The sky is the limit with this kids potential… I agree that he doesnt look like a me first player…

        • JD

          He’s sure got a handle and a nice shot. I think he’ll probably play 15-20 minutes a game primarily backing up Darius but I could see them on the court at the same time too. I do wonder if we’d think about red-shirting Brundidge but he’s probably too talented to keep on the shelf for a year.

          We’re just so deep in the backcourt that I think it might be a good idea to get more years of Brundidge playing 30 minutes a game.

  • michballer

    Anyone know if there is going to be a video or audio feed for the Northland vs Garfield Heights game tonight?

    • Dylan Burkhardt
      • michballer

        Thanks man… Going to be a tough game for Northland… Garfield Heights is a really good team lead by Trey Lewis(penn state recruit)… Trey Bruke going to need to have a big game..

        • Dylan Burkhardt

          Yeah. I’m headed down there which might be bad news, the last time I saw Burke play in person they lost to St. Ed’s.

          • JD

            Wear a different shirt! :-)

  • AC1997

    My thoughts on these three players:

    — Burke has the most impact. He takes those 10-15 minutes per game when Darius needs a rest or is in foul trouble and gives us someone else to bring the ball up, drive, and dish. I don’t want to see Stu try to break a press ever again.
    — Brundidge would ideally redshirt, but won’t. He will be a good player eventually but will struggle initially since we need a 2-Guard who can defend and hit outside shots more than we need another player to drive to the hole. Don’t be surprised when he plays a minimal amount of time behind Stu, Novak, Hardaway, Vogrich, and Burke.
    — Bielfeldt – I think he would be a solid signing and be sort of like Jordan Morgan 2.0 or maybe Graham Brown 2.0. But I would try to redshirt him. The goal for next year is to get Smotrycz to play the 4 and Morgan to avoid fouls at the 5. Horford has already shown flashes and is now in much better shape. He can fill the “10-15 minutes” role as a back-up 5 and Novak can play the back-up 4. In an emergency you can play McLimans or Christian for some extra fouls or hustle. Why waste him playing 5 minutes per game?

    • matt d

      “We need a 2-Guard who can defend and hit outside shots more than we need another player to drive to the whole”

      Really? You must not be watching the same Michigan team I am because we certainly need penetration more than outside shooting.

  • Dylan Burkhardt

    Southfield leads K-Zoo Central 11-10 after the first quarter.

  • Section13Row15

    Good analysis AC1997. Although Jordan Morgan 2.0 implies an upgraded version of Jordan Morgan / Graham Brown, which doesn’t appear to be the case. I heard that Trey Burke is a lock down defender too, so I’m excited to see how he can defend in those 10-15 minutes regardless of how his shot is falling as a freshman. I saw Brundidge play once in person this year against Country Day and he struggled a bit but can definitely create his own shot. He had a couple drives where he was going full speed to the basket and pulled up on a dime creating instant separation for the midrange jumper. I’m excited for all three of these guys and won’t be too hurt if Max ends up at Illinois. Still wish we had Dom Pointer instead but I’ll get over it.

    • MikeSal

      From what I’ve read everyone at Illinois is expecting Max to come to UM….who knows what will happen though

  • Section13Row15

    I agree with Matt D. Need more penetration. We have a lot of guys who like to hang out around the 3 point line.

    • Brick

      That’s kind of how the offense works.

      • JD

        Burke looks like he can get to the rim at will. That at least makes 3 guys that bring that to the table and also Stu started penetrating more in the last 5 to 10 games.

        I expect Smot to work on his handle over the summer as well.

        It probably won’t happen but redshirting Brundidge would be a great luxury.

  • Dylan Burkhardt

    Halftime and K-Zoo Central is up 5 at the break. Brundidge sat for most of the 2nd quarter with 2 fls.

  • j-turn14

    Anyone know what plug-in I need to watch that Fox Sports feed? It’s telling me I don’t have it on my lap-top, but I don’t see on the page what it is that I need.

    • MaizeNBlueJ

      I believe it’s a Windows Media Player plugin.

  • Dylan Burkhardt

    2 point game in the fourth quarter. It hasn’t been pretty but Southfield is battling.

  • Dylan Burkhardt

    40-38 with 2:42 to go. Brundidge has 10.

  • BL11

    Seems like the coaching in this game is one sided. Brundidge will grow a lot as a basketball player under Beilein’s coaching.

  • AC1997

    Penetration debate:

    My opinion is that Morris and Hardaway are the guys who will penetrate the defense. What we need is a 2-guard who can hit an open jump shot and lock down on defense. I see Brundidge as redundant to Hardaway and Morris if they were on the court at the same time.

    I think the offense works best when Morris (or Hardaway) dribble drives and kicks to an open shooter. I like the idea of having Novak at the 2 and Smotrycz at the 4.

    • j-turn14

      THJ was our best 3-point shooter at the end of the year so if Brundidge and Morris were out there, I wouldn’t have any problem with one of them kicking it out to him.

    • matt d

      THJ isn’t a classic penetrator, he penetrates off screen and roll, and isn’t the same type of passer as D. Morris and Burke. Simply put, he’s the scorer, that’s his role and it will be for the duration of his tenure at Michigan. We need 2 more players that can create offense for others on this team, and I think we have them in CB and Burke.

      • JB…

        great comment, agree 100%

    • Zok

      We need more than 2 penetrators on the entire roster though. Right now we have 1.5 with Morris and THjr. THjr’s handles are still a little weak but I fully expect that to improve next season so call it 2 for next year.

      The addition of Burke and Brundidge will help in that department.. as we have a lot of guys who can finish if they are on the end of a drive and kick. plus wouldn’t hurt to get to the foul line more often.

    • Kenny

      The difference between THJ and our other shooters is that he can create his own shot because his ability of penetrating. Although he does have his dad’s killer double crossover, he is effective creating enough space.

  • matt d

    CB missed 2 free throws………..that hurt

  • matt d

    CB just nailed a HUGE 20 footer to tie it up!

  • matt d

    40-40 with 1:14 left

  • matt d

    just as I say that he blows a wide open lay up to go up2

  • Dylan Burkhardt

    Brundidge makes a great backdoor cut and misses the layup. 40-40. K-Zoo Central ball with 1:00 left.

  • matt d

    CB just hit the front end of a 1-1, Southfield down 42-41 with CB taking 1 more at the line………37 secs left

  • matt d

    and the 2nd is good!

  • BL11

    CLUTCH free throws

  • matt d

    Southfield fails to box out, KC scores on an air ball 3 attempt to take the lead 44-42 and the game.

  • Dylan Burkhardt

    Kalamazoo Central wins 44-42. Brundidge half court three was no good.

  • michballer

    Ugly game… CB two missed free throws and missed bunny layup came back to bite Southfield…

  • matt d

    To say Southfiled’s coaching is poor is an understatement. They clearly had the bigger, more athletic front court, and yet they refused to get the ball in the post. Several times in the second half they were able to convert easy putbacks as a result of offensive rebounding.

    As for CB – he pretty much was the offense from the midway point of the 3rd quarter on. In all honesty, he is the reason they were able to keep the game close, but he also missed 2 critical free throws and a wide open layup. If he converts either, Southfield probably wins the game. He isn’t the quickest player out there, and his jumpshot is streaky, but once he lowers the shoulder on the spin move the defender is pretty much at his mercy, he is simply too strong. Has underrated passing ability, and usually finishes good around the rim(not so much today). His best attribute at this point is getting to the rim and drawing defenders for an easy pass or basket. Worst attribute is a lack of knowing what a good/bad shot is.

    • Dylan Burkhardt

      Yeah CB’s passing ability continues to improve tremendously. He sometimes forces passes a bit but keeps getting better. Not his best game obviously but you can see what he brings to the table.

  • kevin

    STAUSKAS

  • Fred_Ex

    I’m not really feeling Bielfeldt, but I have been wrong once. I won’t however be heart broken if he goes to Illinois, I do feel he would be a better fit in our offense. My prediction is he goes to Illinois, those family ties to the University are a little stronger than Ma and Pa alumni roots. Watching him play, he appears to be really confident and his stats are pretty impressive particularly as a rebounder. We’ll see.

  • IntenseBluDawg

    I was only able to catch the game with about 4 minutes remaining, but saw CB hit some big shots. That layup that he missed, he was not quite as wide open as the replay showed a defender coming over right when CB caught it. Still, CB has to hit that bunny. Really excited about CB’s future in AA.

  • Dylan Burkhardt

    About 30 minutes until Bielfeldt’s presser is scheduled to begin.

  • Azad

    Such a bizarre story for me, because I don’t honestly know what I’m rooting for in terms of Bielfeldt’s decision. It just doesn’t seem to me that his presence really improves the team at this point. So let’s hope he commits and trust in Beilein to work magic? I don’t know…

  • TheYooper

    Interesting who you’ll find at the Breslin. Terry Mills was standing next to me for a couple minutes and a kid i play ball with was sitting next to Beilein.

  • bob

    Trey Burke wins state semi as Northland overcomes #1 Garfield Heights, but he was outplayed by future nitt lion, trey lewis (15 pts vs 33)

    • bmorant

      Definately had an off night but let’s be clear… The Trey’s did not guard each other. Burke was in early foul trouble preventing him from sticking Lewis. Northland was very impressive despite an off shooting night from Burke. Role players stepped up. Coach Beilein got a look at an “under the radar” Devon Scott who dominated the paint!!!

  • mich is boss

    Dylan-

    Could you release your prediction for the starting lineup next year? Also, is there a stream for the state championship today ? I wanna see burke play