Did he hire an agent?

No word on that in the press release. Have to see if it is addressed in the press conference.

None of that feels like “just testing the water”.

Harris said there is no way he is coming back and he is in the process of hiring an agent.

It should be announced in the press conference, but a very reliable source has confirmed he does plan to hire an agent. Its too bad because the probability of him getting guaranteed money is slim to none. I do think Manny will have a great opportunity to make a lot of money over seas, much like former Notre Dame grad Chris Thomas who makes around $400,000 a year. Definitely enough to make a living. I wish Manny the best of luck and I respect his decision, even though I might not agree with it.

Some of one’s appreciation for a player may be kind of personal–Manny and Peedi came along just as I was beginning to get back into Michigan basketball, so they will always hold a special place. Where other people wanted him to lead more, I always kind of liked the stoic side of him–maybe I was reading in, but I always felt there was a lot of emotion just beneath the surface there. (And I was always trying to make the case for that quiet leadership model.)

I am proud of those guys as Detroiters, too. I only lived there for the first five years of my life, but I am proud of the fact that I came out of that milieu.

I think he’s probably being pretty honest about just loving basketball and being ready to move on. Nothing is guaranteed to him, but I’m sure you can spend more time on hoops, on developing, if you’re out of school. High school kids often have an overinflated sense of their worth as players, but I’m sure Manny has heard it straight from a lot of people.

Good luck Manny! Whether we think it is a good decision for him or not, we should wish him well. I just hope that someday he isn’t being mentioned in the same sentence as the “Marcus Taylor’s” who should have stayed in school another year.

I haven’t read the draft prognosticators, but I assume he will be a 2 in the NBA as he’s not big enough for a 3 and doesn’t have the handle to be a 1. Would a good comparison be to Arron Afflalo when he came out of UCLA? He’s always been a pretty strong, tough defender though…I don’t think you can say that about Manny.

Marcus Taylor played professionally after he left State but he’s widely regarded as making a mistake coming out early. If you leave early for the NBA and don’t make the NBA you are going to turn into a cautionary tale for years to come. Almost all underclassmen that declare and are not first rounders have educational or disciplinary problems. If he has neither, I don’t understand this. Don’t tell me he wants to play in Europe, that’s a load of crap. He thinks he’s making a roster for sure next year.

Good luck to Manny, I’ll be pleased to hear good news about his career. My selfish side wishes he’d stayed, and that may be why I think he’d have been better off with more time to develop. He’s still young for his college grade. But, what do I know about it? Go get’em Manny.

Alright, somebody talk to me about Mike Jackson and his importance to this team.

Draftsite.com has him going in the late second round. I think he needs real big workouts to even get drafted.

I’m not an expert, but I don’t see how this is a good decision. I could hardly blame him if he was a projected first rounder, but that’s not the case.

I’m a little nervous about next year now.

People keep mentioning Marcus Taylor. That situation was quite a bit different than this one. For one thing Taylor was a sophomore, not a junior. Of course, leaving as a sophomore and not getting drafted at all can only be called a mistake. I’m sure that Harris realizes he is probably not going to be taken in the 1st round. He probably also realizes that once you’ve reached your junior year, you’re not that likely to move yourself into the first round by coming back for one year. My guess would be that he knows what he’s up against, but doesn’t believe that one more year will change things significantly. As I’ve said before, I think he could benefit from one more year of college, but I don’t look at this as a huge mistake.

Now that it’s become official (pending news of an agent being hired) I’m really going to be rooting for him and DeShawn on draft day.

I respect Manny’s decision although I believe he should come back…I really do think that Ziegler likes this…he’s now the Man if he comes to UM.

Also, Marcus Taylor played “professionally” mostly in the Dakotas. Not exactly a primo Euro circuit.

If Manny wants to go he needs to go. His game needs work and if he would rather work on it somewhere else and get paid who can blame him. Without him we will be bad next year, with him we would still be middle of the pack. I hope the fan base can have patience. I hope we can enjoy the development of the remaining players and we will now see the full blown “Beilein System”. If we continue to compare us against the MSUs and OSUs next year we will be in for a world of hurt, if we focus on progress in the program maybe we can have some hope.

Okay, that was inaccurate. Marcus Taylor got some significant Euro time. Just can’t resist taking a shot. He was the missing piece to a real MSU contender.

I heard TZ was more excited about the idea of playing with Manny and that this might hurt. Accurate?

Last year, we were consistently referred to as the youngest team in the Big 10. Does this mean that next year we will be the youngest team in all of college basketball? Assuming 1 more recruit, we are looking at 3 Jr., 2 So., and 6 Fr.

It will be sad without Manny and Peedi on the floor next year. I loved the personalities on this team. Unlike Taylors, and Traylors, etc. with all the talent in the world, this team has some guys that are so easy to root for. Manny and Peedi were two of them, but I’m still hopeful for the future.

I don’t think it makes too much a difference with Trey. I imagine he knows he’s choosing for a program, not just for one year with one teammate.

I think it’s more likely that Zeigler would rather play with Harris (he said so much on a formspring thing) but that it won’t have a major effect (he said that on the formspring as well)… But then again, who knows because he basically keeps it PC. We’ll see. 2 weeks.

Good luck to Manny. He carried this team for three years and did some great things for Michigan. I actually think it’s the right move for him. He isn’t quite right for this system and continuing to play here I think only further “exposes” his limitations. The right move probably would have been to come out after last year in all honesty. The NBA drafts so much on potential, you have to find that happy medium where you’ve proven something but still have a lot of buzz for your potential. Leaving after the NCAA run and the game against Clemson might have been best for him. Anyway, I hope he does well and will continue to follow him.

On a scholarship note, if UM ends up getting Sykes and Ziegler, they will have seven! players in that class. That will be tough to manage the future scholarship balance when more than half of your scholarships are in a single class.

Sounds like it wasn’t much of a decision if he’s getting an agent. Oh well, best of luck.

Dylan – What’s your take on someone’s mentioning of Hardaway not taking a scholarship? I know it’s different that Dumars because he wouldn’t have been offered but think there’s any chance?

I can’t see taking Sykes and Zeigler, I really think its either or. If we did, we would probably redshirt Horford and Sykes to put the classes back in balance. No way we give time to seven Freshmen.

Hardaway will be on scholarship.

Best of luck to Manny. We should definitely be thankful for all he’s done over the past three years.

Having said that, the “transition period” is now officially over, and it’s Beilein Ball from here on out. Everyone on the roster next year will be a “Beilein guy”. Expectations will be low, but quite frankly, I’m excited for this new era to start.

Thanks Manny, you seriously rock. I hope wish the best for you in the NBA, and I will be fervently following the rest of your career. When you’re on, you’re on, and I hope that I get to see that in the NBA.

Yeah, next year–from the fan p.o.v.–really needs to be one of reduced expectations, pleasant surprise when they do succeed, focusing in on player development and the future pieces of the puzzle. There’s going to be a lot of griping from the ridiculous expectations and fairweather folks, calls for Beilein’s head, etc. We might want to agree now just to ignore the really splenetic posts.

When I watch my daughter play soccer or bball w. her friends, I don’t focus on whether they’re winning, just the personalities, seeing that she’s not getting f’d around, how her game(s) are coming along. . .

Can fill up a stat sheet with points, rebounds, assists, and steals.

Questionable shooter, ballhandler, defender, and leader.

Declared for NBA Draft after junior season.

Did I just describe Manny Harris or did I describe Albert White?

Even though I don’t agree with his decision, either way, I wish Manny the best. He was a pleasure to watch.

If Sims or Manny gets drafted, I’m definitely going to buy one of their jerseys.

Agreed about next year. Lower expectations, pleasant surprise when they win.

Just wanted to make comment on Manny’s decision to leave Michigan and the great impact his absence will have on the upcoming season. For the past three years the fans of Michigan depended on Harris/Sims to get the job done. Harris and Beilein started together bringing Michigan back on the map for viewing. Harris started his college career in a program that changed his position from point guard to forward. That was the first mistake. His Big Ten involvment enlightened everyone on his ability to be strong and his stats spoke for himself. Maybe his decision to leave Michigan could be contributed to Beiline’s failing system and the future forecast for Michigan. Why would he want to continue to play for a team that is almost forcasting continued defeat! I wish Manny had been a little more selfish and played instinctively.

HAPPY FOR YOU MANNY HARRIS! LOTS OF LUCK!

Oregon and Phil Knight want Izzo very badly…

http://m.detnews.com/news.jsp?key=625041&rc=top

As for next year, it should be better than Beilein’s first year when everyone had to learn the offense and defense. The play of Morgan and McClimans could be as or more important than who takes over at the wing. If Morgan and McClimans produce, there’s less pressure on Horford and Smotrycz, who can then ease their way into the lineup.

I’m sad to see Manny go. We really could have used his scoring next season because we’ll be so young. Add to that the monster recruiting classes at OSU, MSU, Illinois, and Purdue’s big 3 coming back its going to be a long year. Hopefully we can get a softer schedule and some kind of impact from next year’s freshman class.

I certainly hope Manny has the chance to earn at least six figures no matter where he goes. I really want to see him succeed. Heck, I’ve watched a few Warriors games this season just to see Chris Hunter!

Finally, I also heard that Ray McCollum is going to commit to UD for his dad. That kindof makes me a little more optimistic for Zeigler because I had the feeling they were going to team up and head out west. I just don’t think I can take it if we miss out on yet another home town guy in favor of some no-name program like Arizona State.

next year will be Beilein’s 4th year here. I think it’s fair to expect him to start winning some games. That’s what he’s being paid a lot of money to do.

@Mattski: I totally agree–although I wish Michigan basketball didn’t make us think of youth soccer.

If there’s a bright side to all this, it’s that the transition period Giddings mentioned–and all the instability that naturally came with it–is indeed over. There shouldn’t be any more killer transfers or departures.

So, we should eventually get off this treadmill of always having a shallow, young team. It won’t happen next year, of course, but at least we’re headed in that direction.

ill give him another year after this upcoming season…….we have got to be sensable here………anyway you slice it, next year we will have 2 maybe 3 freshmen starting, a sophmore and thats really it. stu and novak are the only upperclassmen options unless llp really elevates his game and we know what stu and novak have to offer so unless our freshmen are fantastic we can expect another frustrating season……a big disappointment would be having novak start at the 4 again i personally feel its time to just throw evan or mcclimans in and just have them play through any struggles and give novak extremely limited time at the 4 so others can rest ….novak is not the answer to michigans future and the time has to be now that we start playing our bigs often……what we need to look for is positive signs of improvement……but we cant expect our freshmen and sophmores to carry this team into post season glory just yet

I agree that next season will be somewhat of a struggle with all the young guys and just not having the talent. But after next season with the 2010 class, the 2011 class should bring in more/BETTER talent to the roster, we should start seeing wins from Beilein. These next couple classes are key for him. pgrom is correst that he is being paid big bucks, coach is doing it right and now he just needs to get some talent there to produce.

I love how Oregon is trying to back up the Brinks truck in front of Izzo’s house. I guess if they want Tubby they could probably get him though.

As for Iowa hiring the coach from Siena. I think its a bad sign for us but a good sign for the Big Ten. If McCaffery makes Iowa anything like Siena they’re going to play pretty fast. Its about time we had more of those teams in the Big Ten.

I should probably clarify that when I say better than Beilein’s first season, I’m not thinking in terms of only wins. The team will have challenges and struggle some next year, and I don’t see them racking up wins for an NIT berth or something on that level. I don’t think it will look unorganized or as out-of-sync as the first season since there are players with experience. If Zeigler comes, that’ll help a lot; if not, Hardaway, Novak or someone else could be playing the wing at the start of the season if they start with McLimans and Morgan as the center and power forward. It shouldn’t be as bad as Iowa (I’d hope) was this year. Back to work now.

Sad to see Manny go. I hope he does well in his future endeavors.

With the departure of Manny, DeShawn, Gibson and Wright, next years team will need a leader to step up. I think that leader will Be Zack Novak. Not having a senior on the team will be tough. Darius Morris is a vital part to next year’s team. If we can keep our defensive intensity that we ended this year with and knock down a few more shots next year, I think we can make some noise next year. Next years team will struggle to score but scoring will come a long and will provide a bridge into 2011 and 2012.

The biggest question I have for next year is who’s going to play the 4 and the 5? I don’t see Beilein sticking with Novak at the 4. I’m really anticipating the arrival of this years Freshman class. I think Smotrycz is the perfect 4 for Beilein’s system. Hardaway can get to the rim and Jon Horford knows his position and I’ve seen some promise in his post moves and his agility.

I’m expecting only 13 victory’s next season. It’s going to be long and painful. Hopefully we see improvement from players throughout the year to give us hope for 2011-2012. Beilein will have to get everything in order for 2012-2013.

I think we’ll win more games next year. I know it’s hard to see right now. Morris is the key in my mind. He’ll improve significantly and run the team. This allows Stu to move to his natural 2 spot. Novak will start at the 3. Metric will start at the 4 and Morgan the 5. McLimans will come off the bench for both Morgan and Metric and LLP/Vogrich/Hardaway coming in off the bench for the 3 guards, with occasional play of 4 gaurds.

Wildcards are:
1) Getting Trey
2) Can Horford play as a freshman
3) Development of Akunne and Dumars

Good luck to Manny.

Well, after last season I think everyone was expecting this announcement to come — at least SOMETHING went according to plan. Good luck, Manny. Graduate sometime, eh?

Not that rankings mean much, but they’re kinda fun: has our recruiting class ranking gotten a boost after Horford? WHEN we add Sykes or Zeigler, where do you think the class will rank in the conference and/or nationally?

Now we can say that the Belein era starts now. The thing I’m interested to see for next years team is how the team chemistry changes. I love Manny and DeShawn but it is now the true dawning of a new era in UM basketball. I honestly think next years team will win more games even if Trey comes or not. For one we will have more height which means no more Novak at the 4, second I think we will see a more improved LLP and I know D MO will be better and I have this feeling Stu is gonna up his game alot, third whatever we get from our incoming freshman will be a big tell tale sign also. The big splash of our level of sucess is if we get Ziegler or Sykes and how their careers evolve. And like UMIndy said Akunne and Dumars could be wildcards or jokercards. Plus remember my maize legion we didn’t get Belein for his way of pulling in concensus top 40 talent but his coaching sucess at everywhere he has been. We start winning and it’s Michigan we build it the recruits will come. Go Blue

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If they were able to land Zeigler, I think it would make this a top-25 class.

well if we get zeigler it would probably be a top 10 class according to espnu because we are already at 24 now and that hasnt even counted horford yet…….with zeigler it would definitely be a top 25 class probably

izzo to oregon, appling & zeigler to michigan

Izzo is going to the NBA or he’s going to retire. He’s not pulling a Bill Frieder and betrying his school for a paycheck from some no-name basketball program in the Pac-10.

Let’s hope we get Trey Zeigler. With Zeigler the rank of our class will sky rocket.

If no Zeigler, settle in for a long season of scoring in the 40′s and losing. Realistically who is going to score in double figures consistently?

Based on this quote from Coach Beilein in the Detroit News’ article about Manny Leaving, I think it’s safe to say you’ll only see one more scholarship given.

“He’s going to be a difficult young man to replace. If we can find someone who can fill his spot we will sign him. If not, we will wait for 2011.”

My brother told me about a post on ESPN’s board that says that Isaiah Sykes was on UM’s campus to visit, so I’ll pass it along. It looks like something from the Wolverine to me:

http://boards.espn.go.com/boards/mb/mb?sport=ncaa&id=130&tid=6644932&lid=12

I’d prefer Trey, but we’ll see what happens.

Are any of you guys watching the McDonalds All American skills contest? Ray McCollum looks phenomenal in the dunk contest.

AG2, thanks for the heads. Just watched some of McCallum’s dunk attempts. If he goes to U of D, they’ll pack Callahan Hall for games.

Good call on Tubby earlier. He’s supposedly getting an offer from Oregon. Tubby’s determined to leave the Gophers it looks like, whether it’s Oregon or Auburn.

I was listening on the radio here in East Lansing this morning and they were saying that McCollum claimed to have received a recruiting letter from Michigan in 9th grade and that’s it. They also seemed to believe Beilein isn’t interested in Amir Williams for some reason.

Hard to believe you’d want to stop recruiting McCallum in 9th gade. Didn’t he visit with Trey for a U-M football game last year? I seem to remember photos of him at Michigan Stadium.

I think MSU is recruiting Williams too. He’s been at U-M games, and Beilein has been at Country Day games. Maybe some Spartan bias on that station?

who cares what are class ranks? We need to set are sights on bigger talent , go after some elite prospects !!! convince them that at michigan you have alot of exposure and the abbilty to start Now!!!! BTW i can’t see us improving next season , Can anyone honestly say that morgan amd McLimans will rebound with the big ten studs.

PLEASE LEAVE IZZO !!!!! WE NEED OUR DETROIT CONNECTION BACK

The idea that Michigan stopped recruiting McCallum in 9th grade is ridiculous. Just ridiculous. McCallum didn’t really give Michigan a chance but that’s understandable considering that he isn’t really a Michigan kid.

Honestly, I don’t think Michigan’s recruiting of Detroit is the problem. We’ve gotten a few Detroit guys in the past few years, and we’ve recruited out of state but so has MSU even if they don’t recruit much farther than Ohio and Indiana.

The real issue to me seems to be Flint and Saginaw. When was the last time Michigan brought in someone from that area? All we have is LLP and we only got him by way of Arizona. What gives with that? They can’t all think MSU is their dream school like Draymon Green.

Waaaaah. Good luck, Manny. Thanks for 2009.

I suppose it’s the same kind of journalism as Terry Foster complaining on the radio today about Beilein leaving to catch a flight, rather than sticking around after Manny’s presser to talk to the media. I’d rather have coach go on a recruiting trip than talk to Foster any day, especially after the bush leaguer played the audio of coach saying he needed to leave for the airport. Foster can be a classless dude.

I’ve heard at least one MSU fan and HS bball aficionado claim that he’d take Sykes over Zeigler. I know that’s a minority opinion but the drop off from TZ to Sykes might not be all it’s cracked up to be. TZ isn’t a hotshot shooter either.

On recruiting Flint… Part of the difficulty with basketball recruiting when you’re a new or relatively new coach (as opposed to football in some cases) is the limited number of scholarships to work with, combined with the number of high Division I prospects in a town. If you miss out on the “it” guy in a town, you may need to go somewhere else to find the player that fits the position need and find a higher-caliber player. Beilein’s taken a good approach for the most part, getting in on kids earlier, creating the elite camp, and trying to build relationships. He’s in on a couple guys in that area (pretty sure it’s McCune and Hawkins). It just takes time since you’re battling an established power, like U-M football was for many years.

I usually listen to the Ann Arbor sports station on my way home, but hit a preset and heard Foster talking about Beilein. I felt dirtier for it. Later.

If I was Manny, I’d be hoping to get undrafted rather than get drafted in the 2nd round. 2nd rounder does not have guaranteed contract and is stuck with one team. Ditto with UDFA except that you have the option to choose multiple of teams offering you and you pick the team that you have the best chance of sticking in the roster.

Best of luck to Manny. You have been a great player at Michigan and we’ll miss you.

I would say in terms of potential, Sykes has more of an upside if he develops a solid jump shot and is surrounded by guys that can finish or hit shots (which he would be)…in terms of instant impact, I am pretty sure Zeigler would help a great deal more these next 2 years, as he is pretty polished for a high school player…I just see more athleticism in Sykes

Will Kalvin Grady be back with the team next year to play? I think his ability to penetrate and blow by his man and finish at the rim is something this year’s team just didn’t do

Finish at the rim? Kelvin Grady’s biggest weakness was that he couldn’t make a layup to save his life.

While I agree that Kelvin couldn’t finish, I think he is a wild card that we shouldn’t rule out. It was pretty telling that they didn’t play him in any games this year so as not to waste a year of eligibility, because obviously they could have used him. It sounds like he is going to stick with football and basketball, so he will be available for the Big Ten season (or more if the football team can’t get it together and make a bowl). My guess is that Darius gets full run at controlling the team for the first half of the season, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see Kelvin get some considerable PT once the Big Ten season gets rolling.

Manny! Best of luck to you. Thanks for doing all you have to turn Michigan around. You’ve been a joy to watch, and I’ll continue rooting for you wherever you go.

About next year, I was just going to mention Grady. I think he’ll be able to backup Morris, as Morris may struggle with consistently like he did this year (along with everyone else). Also, he’ll be an academic senior, so he may be able to provide some leadership.

I’m interested to see the true Beilein system, as I think it was tweaked quite a bit to fit Manny and Sims.

DPill, next time say “no homo”

A new Era of Michigan Basketball has finally begun starting todays anouncement. It’s all Coaches recruited players now at Michigan. So, lets see how this is really going to work for our basketball program. He dismissed players and now he has his own recruits that he wanted for the program. Much Love to the Detroit Duo!! Hopefully, Someday your Numbers can be hung from the rafters.

I didn’t see a quote about this in the articles about Manny that I saw yesterday, but Sam Webb said this morning that both Beilein and the assistant coaches that he talked to yesterday said that they could end up taking two more players in this class. So there is the possibility that you could see Trey and Sykes added.

Tim Hardaway,

Is your cross-over as good as your dad’s?

Sincerely,
A Fan of the Killer Cross-Over

So, next year is officially a rebuilding year.

I’m not sure having Manny back next year would have changed that, but now it’s a for-sure thing, IMO. No one at the 4 or 5 (except Novak, God bless him) has any playing time, plus some injury concerns, plus some need-to-put-on-serious-weight concerns.

The good news for them is that they should have experienced guard play (1-3). And they’ll have more talent from top to bottom than they’ve had in recent years.

Still, I think next year could be equally frustrating for this team. I’m still gonna cheer them on every game and read UMHoops.com obsessively. I’m just saying … :)

Go Blue!

Does anyone else think that Tim Hardaway Jr. could play the 3 spot for Beilein? I always hear him mentioned as a 2 but I’d say Stu’s got that position and Dmo at 1. So if Zeigler doesn’t come, I think we could see Hardaway eventually replace Manny’s spot. He can get to the rim and he can shoot it from deep. I haven’t seen much as far as rebounding skills and being able to compete for rebounds but I think he could be a successful three man for Beilein.

I think Hardaway and Vogrich could probably chance between the 2 and 3. That being said, we’d probably see a lot of Novak at the 3 if we don’t get Zeigler or Sykes.

Matt, I agree. I think that Hardaway could possibly play 3. I’m just very glad we finally have some sort of long athlete that can play above the rim but also stroke the 3 ball. If ziegler comes I’m assuming hardaway will play behind stu. I think Stu is going to have a good year next year from beyond the arc.

On another note–while I think that we will shoot the ball better from 3 (it’s nearly impossible not to) I don’t think that will translate into more wins. Someone posed the question “who on next years squad will consistently score in double digits” and that made me seriously doubt UM’s offensive ability. On the other hand, this complex offensive system seemingly gets open looks, so if those open looks go down, we could win more games…

Well I saw a lot of promise last year from DMo towards the end of the season. He really started to grasp the offense and he was starting to attack the rim. And like you said Drew2, Stu will most likely knock down more shots because he won’t have to play point like he did last year. I really like Novak at the 3. I know he isn’t truly a 4 but I think last years experience will translate a lot to next year. He was able to bang down low and develop his rebounding skills. The kid is tough and him at the 3 wouldn’t bother me one bit. I’m still anxious to see how our 4 and 5 positions will play out. If Novak plays the 3, Smotrycz and McLimans will compete for the 4. Hopefully Morgan can finally be injury free and play 5 for us. The battle for the 4 and 5 positions will be intriguing and I can’t wait to see who gets the starting jobs.

Sigh:

“The first time I heard he [Huggins] was coming,” remembers West Virginia’s best player, Da’Sean Butler, “I was like, ‘I’m getting ready to go to Michigan.’ But I’m glad I didn’t leave. It’s been great. I’d be doing all kind of nothing right now.”

Oh well Deacon Blues, at least he considered it so you know he still has some loyalty to Beilein. As far as the last sentence he just meant that WVU is in the Final Four while Michigan’s season is over, just like everyone elses.

I’m getting worried that Zeigler may expand his true selection to three choices. I know he officially lists five choices but till now I would have been willing to bet he would end up with either UCLA or us. I have to imagine MSU’s Final Four run is having some kind of an impact.

I hope his advisors tell him about the program’s long term potential (year after next year) especially if he committs here.

We will find out soon.

With a top 5-10 recruiting class this year regardless of Zeigler, I don’t think MSU has any problem with their long term potential even after Lucas, Summers, and Allen leave.

I think if anything, MSU is too crowded in the future with Zeigler.

Just an FYI. Michigan Stadium was vandalized. Not basketball related, but important enough. Ticked me off actually.

http://www.detnews.com/article/20100330/SPORTS0201/3300413/1361/Block–M–at-Michigan-Stadium-vandalized

Alex,

I hear that it’s basically a three team race between Michigan, CMU and UCLA for Trey. I don’t believe that he’ll expand it to 5 this late in recruiting.

i suspect its going to come down to the 3 teams mentioned above……..if ray mccallum doesnt end up playing for his dad then i would imagine its a safe bet that both he and trey end up at ucla……..then its a matter of trey playing for his dad and michigan…….if ray ray doesnt play for his dad then its gotta be a done deal that him and trey playing together

whatever the scenario its getting to be super annoying and as much as i follow this im sick of hearing about it everyday and i would like to now focus on next years recruiting class and next years team and season

That’s it. I’ve had it. I’m sick and tired of people crapping on Michigan. From here on out, no beatdown is too harsh, no blowout is too inappropriate. If we ever have the chance to run up the score on MSU/CMU/WMU/EMU/Oakland/UD I say go for it.

fresh why do you think its a done deal that Ray and Trey end up as a package deal if ray goes out of state? Is this based on anything, other than them saying they would like to play together? Do you even know if possible schools have room for both of them? Its seems like Ray is looking at a number of schools that Trey does not seem interested in. UCLA I guess would be the common interest school but they already have three commits, including a pg and sg, and they are also in on a number of other high level recruits.

I dont know the answer to any of those questions, but I don’t see where this done deal is coming from.

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being that because they have said they want to play with each other and that both waited to commit and being that ucla signed a juco player as a point guard one in which mccallum plays before i think point in that direction…………..but UM is looking to sign 2 potential shooting guards so why not ucla or anybody else so i doubt that matters either cause trey can always play the wing as well……..and ucla just lost a player to transfer today creating another opening even though it was a center…………maybe done deal was wrong but there are a few signs that make that extremely possible

Well, two things happened today that will be positives for next season:

1. Kansas’ Cole Aldrich will not return for his senior season, which means he won’t be part of the team when they visit Ann Arbor next season. Xavier Henry, Kansas’ second leading scorer, is undecided on whether to come back next year or not.

2. Steve Lavin will NOT be part of a TV crew announcing Big Ten games next year. He could be okay at times, but he could get annoying, especially when talking about Evan Turner.

Even with Michigan losing Manny and Deshawn, I think the team can still beat Penn State and Iowa next year. Penn State is undergoing roster transition (two transfers and two seniors decided to leave), and their coach is on the hot seat.

If Tubby leaves Minnesota (which could happen), the Gophers could be in transition too. I wonder if Tubby Smith owns his own domain name or if the Gophers bought it for him since they push tubbysmith.com pretty heavily on the official web site for Minnesota athletics.

Brian W,

As much as i love Stu And Zack they will both be starting for us next year and i feel like may and gaitens of iowa are better or atleast played alot better this year than our guys . Fuller and cole are also superior to our freshman so i look to finish 10th but im not sure if we will beat out iowa . The big ten will be the #1 conference next year for sure.

ESPN just said Boston College might consider Tommy Amaker to replace Al Skinner.

Now the free press is vandalizing the stadium. They’re just relentless.

L.R., I can understand a 10th place forecast, but I’m hoping for something higher than that (not significantly higher, though). Since U-M will be a young team, winning as many home games as possible will be important; road games in the Big Ten can be difficult with an experienced lineup, so I expect them to struggle on the road. Indiana and Penn State shouldn’t be very good. Iowa could go different directions depending how players adapt to a new system. Guess I’m trying to not be too pessimistic.

If Tommy is considering Boston College, his wife will probably be part of the equation since she’ll probably want to continue working in higher education (i.e. at the school Tommy would go to).

Its entirely possible we’d finish 10th next year. The only team I can definitely say is in worse shape than us is Penn State because of the transfers. Iowa is going to become a team that runs and usually that means you need depth which is definitely not something you’d associate with Iowa. I really think Tom Crean needs to get it going next year but its going to be tough because of the monster recruiting classes at MSU, OSU, and Illinois. Purdue brings their big 3 back. Even NW brings everyone back plus Kevin Coble. With Minnesota and Wisconsin its anybody’s guess.

2011 is beilein’s chance to make noise, not 2010

FWIW, Amaker’s wife, who happens to be absolutely gorgeous, is an instructor in psychology at the Harvard Medical School. I doubt she wants to switch jobs. She probably wouldn’t have to, even if Amaker left, since Harvard/BC are pretty close to each other (I think).

Sad to see where our program is headed (again). We can’t attract or retain talent, and can’t win with sub-mid-major talent. The fact that we lost a guy to the draft who may not even be drafted really disappoints me. But I completely agree with his decision, and the decision of many players not to play for Beilein — Manny will be better served spending a year in the D-league or in Europe than by another year under JB’s tutelage. Hope he succeeds, and I hope by next April we have a new basketball coach.

Brad, I hope this is an April Fool’s joke, because if not, you’re way off base.

That’s all I have to say about it.

UM will struggle to keep out of the cellar. PSU might be worse as a team, but with Talor Battle they have a much better player than anyone UM will have. Iowa should be improved now that they finally won’t lose any key players to transfer and bring in a pretty solid (for them) recruiting class to add depth. Iowa’s team on paper is clearly better than what UM has lined up for next year. Indiana would’ve been better this year had Maurice Creek not gotten hurt.

Hmmmm…well selfishly I hope this falls through so that he comes back for his senior year, though I don't know what the status is with him getting an agent and what not. Still I'm kind of peeved about him saying he was coming back. Even though it was in the heat of the moment, you should still think it through before you say something like that because now it's been made into a lie.

Hmmmm…well selfishly I hope this falls through so that he comes back for his senior year, though I don't know what the status is with him getting an agent and what not. Still I'm kind of peeved about him saying he was coming back. Even though it was in the heat of the moment, you should still think it through before you say something like that because now it's been made into a lie.