Feb 2, 2010 at 1:09 pm by Dylan Burkhardt Filed under: 2009-2010 Season

Game 22: Michigan at Northwestern Preview

Basics

Who: Michigan (11-10, 4-5) at Northwestern (14-7, 3-6)
Where
: Welsh Ryan Arena, Evanston, IL
When: February 2nd, 7pm EST
TV: BTN
Radio
: MGoBlue, WWJ 950 AM/WTKA 1050 AM
Line
: Northwestern by 2
Stats: Live TFS
Pomeroy Profile
First Match-up: Preview / Post game

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Michigan looks to avenge one of the most painful losses in a season full of frustrating defeats.  Michigan coasted to a 17 point lead early in the first match-up before the wheels fell off. Michigan began turning the ball over constantly and Drew Crawford caught fire from three point range.

As we are all familiar with by this point, Northwestern epitomizes the perimeter oriented team. They shoot 47.9% of their shots from three point range at a 36.1% clip and they turn it over on 17.3% of their possessions. They don’t crash the glass (29.7 OR%) and they don’t get to the line much. Considering we have our own perimeter oriented team here, we know all too well that when the shots are falling, things are rosy and when they aren’t it can get ugly.

Defensively, Northwestern runs the 1-3-1 zone very well. Jeremy Nash is extraordinary at playing at the top of the 1-3-1 and forcing turnovers. On the year, Northwestern’s defense hasn’t been extraordinary. They rank 100th in Pomeroy’s adjusted defensive efficiency and don’t stand out in any of the four factors. The bad news for Michigan is that Northwestern does a great job defending the three, holding opponents to 29.8% three point shooting.

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Northwestern freshman Drew Crawford scored 25 points on 9 shots in Ann ArborPersonnel wise, the three biggest concerns are John Shurna, Michael Thompson, and Drew Crawford. Shurna, a 6-foot-8 forward, is averaging 18 points and 7 rebounds per game while shooting 34.4% from three point range. Michigan did a pretty good job of holding Shurna in check in the first match-up, holding him to 11 points on 14 shots. The Wildcat’s point guard, Thompson, is a deadly three point shooter knocking down just under 40% of his attempts. But it was Drew Crawford that lit up Michigan in the first game, the freshman shot 7 of 9 from the field for 25 and snagged 8 rebounds to boot.

The keys for Michigan are pretty simple: defend the three point shot and don’t turn the ball over. Michigan has played significantly better defense since that Northwestern game, which gives me a bit of hope that they can slow the Wildcats offense. The problem is that Michigan has been turning the ball over a lot in conference play, turning the ball over on 20.1% of their possessions, 7th in the Big Ten.

Making a few three point shots would also help the cause. In the pre-game media round table, Anthony Wright let it be known that Michigan “shoots awesome in practice”. Let’s hope they start falling in Evanston.

With a short turnaround from the Iowa game, it will be interesting to see how much Beilein has drawn up to face the Wildcat’s 1-3-1 zone. Michigan looked like they had never faced a zone before and it would be disheartening to see them come out as ill-prepared as the last time around.

Vegas likes Northwestern by 2 while Pomeroy gives Michigan a 39% chance at the upset and takes Northwestern by 3. Michigan is capable of winning this game but it will take discipline and execution on both sides of the ball that we haven’t seen consistently. Thoughts, discussion, and predictions about the game belong in the comments below.

P.S.: It appears that Finney wing guard Isaiah Sykes still on the Michigan radar Michigan was in the house checking out Finney’s game versus Southeastern last week.

  • Drew

    Even though I’m currently a fairly broke college kid and can’t currently wager, I still love to talk gambling.

    That being said, there are two spreads that have my attention tonight. Curious what your guys opinion is on us +2 and Sparty +2. If I was gambling tonight, I suppose I’d take us and Wisconsin. State is due for a loss, and Bo does not lose to Izzo in the Kohl Center. And we’ve all seen first hand what way the calls go down the stretch in that building. Ugh. Wisc 65 Sparty 59

    As far our game goes, I suppose I’d be betting with my heart a bit, but our defense is playing pretty well and I just don’t think Beilein is going to allow this team to fold. After seeing how torn Manny and Co. were in the locker room after the State game, I’m going to force myself to believe this team is on a mission. Mich 68 NW 64

  • Tweeter

    I bet UM comes out fired up tonight to play 40 solid minutes after what happened in Crisler. The Iowa game was hopefully a nice confidence booster and the team is able to carry over the defensive effort. UM needs to do a better job and getting the ball into the high post against the zone. Last game it seemed like we kept trying to get Harris or Novak the ball there, hopefully tonight we use Sims more and Gibson. Its always easier to throw to a big then it is a small wing. I would like to see them experiment a little with the two big guy lineup just to see if they can go high-low against the zone. I think we win a close one, 66-61.

    I commented on Sykes in the last post, and I like him as a good option behind Ziegler. It doesnt sound like he has the offensive game right now, but he offers good size and athleticism. According to Rivals he has some very good offers in Oklahoma, Syracuse and Tennessee.

  • ChiGoBlue

    I’ll take Big Blue by 5 tonight! I’m actually going to the game tonight….my sister got me tickets right behind the Michigan bench, should be a blast! Anybody else headed to the game tonight? Go Blue

  • Eddie

    This game worries me for a number of reasons:
    1. we don’t shoot well and we’re going against a team that defends the perimeter very well
    2. their 1-3-1 has been effective in clogging the lane, which may limit Peedi’s game. why can’t we go over the top for alley-oops against this zone, like everyone does against our 3 zone? never thought i’d miss jevohn shephard, but we could use a high-flyer against this kind of defense
    3. NW shot the lights out against us in the second half in AA. Usually outside shooting teams shoot better at home than on the road. Yikes.

    All of that said, this is a very important game for this team. Last year UM played their best ball with their backs up against the wall. This is one of those moments. I trust Beilein will have the guys ready. I expect a big defensive game, and hopefully a UM victory.

  • Breakwood

    Sims is the key to this game. If he gets 20 pts, and 10 reb we are in good shape to win it. If Northwestern can shut him down, we’re in trouble.

  • http://www.justcoverblog.com/2010/02/02/bubble-news-big-10-game-of-the-year-tips-tonight/ Bubble News: Big 10 Game Of The Year Tips Tonight

    [...] another close game tonight as the Wolverines attempt to avenge a painful defeat from earlier in the season. Close games have been killers for Michigan. In games decided in overtime [...]

  • aiglick@umich.edu

    I want to see Manny limit the turnovers and Novak and/or Douglas get hot behind the arc. I trust Peedi to play his game. Here’s to a confidence-building win: 69-61 Michigan.

  • Matt

    Drew, taking home teams that are less than 5 pt favorites over ranked away teams is usually a good bet.

  • Kevin

    I hope llp, stu, novak, vogrich, and ant wright all get hot…I’m gettin a lil tired of hopin these guys get hot only to be disappointed. That bein said I’m still hopin.

  • Harry K

    hey ChiGoBlue I’ll be there. go blue!

  • JimC

    Not to rain on the parade, but reality says NW wins this one. The game in AA made Carmody look like a defensive genius. Our guards kept freezing up with the ball in their 3-man trap.
    If our guards nut up tonight, I would be a little upset with Beilein for not learning from the past loss.

    NOW, all i want is to be completely wrong.

  • http://www.justcoverblog.com jamie mac

    Drew, while I agree wholeheartedly with Matt on the short home faves, tonight I am on Michigan and Wisco. Here’s hoping our similar wave length proves profitable.

    I just cant resist taking Wisco basically to win at home, even against a team thats 9-0 in the league.

    As for Michigan, we’ve covered six games in a row and nine of 12. That stretch started with the KU game. I blogged a lot at MGo last year about Beilein’s strong cover numbers in March. But, in each of first two years in Ann Arbor, his teams have “turned it on” from February on out. Here we go.

    I’m taking them tonight. I will take them again on Saturday vs Wisco and unless their play takes a 180 in the wrong direction probably in most of their games from here on out. It makes no sense that the basketball program has become a solid bet the last two years, so I am trying not to think about it and just enjoy it.

  • michigan hoops 4eva

    Michigan’s defense needs to keep up the intensity, Harris and Sims need to keep doing their thing, and we need our shooters to shoot. Oh, and keep down the turnovers. GO BLUE

  • Drew

    Jamie,
    Stop spitting things like that out or you’re gonna force me to forget how little money I have in my checking account and throw some cash on BoDog.

    I agree about Wisconsin though. No way Bo is losing this game at home. That place is going to be out of control and Sparty is due for a loss. They really haven’t been playing well at all. This is where it ends.

    And I just have a strong feeling about us tonight. This is when we make our run, while we’re probably still gonna come up short of the tournament, I find it hard to believe Manny isn’t driven more than anyone in this conference. We will make a run. Starting tonight. And I’d bet a large sum on Saturday’s game as well.

  • Sam

    For those of out outside of the Big Ten Network’s footprint, is it possible to find tonight’s game online? The BTN doesn’t seem to be streaming it on their website. Thanks, and go blue.

  • AG2

    Don’t give up a lot of 3s, and don’t turn it over, get the ball to Sims, get to the free throw line, and this last one is important so it bears repeating: win the 2nd half.

  • Giddings

    They seem to be lacking intensity on D in the early stages. A couple wide open looks for Shurna, an offensive board, an easy layup.

  • Drew

    Of course I get all excited and optimistic FOR ONCE and this how they come out. Screw this. I hate this year.

  • http://www.umhoops.com Dylan

    Michigan not getting good shots on offense and getting bead badly on the defensive end. Frustrating start to say the least.

  • Sam

    Bill Carmody wearing a tie today may be a good sign for us, but we aren’t playing well early.

  • Mike

    This team needs to step it up and bring more energy

  • http://www.umhoops.com Dylan

    Hello Darius Morris!

  • Mike

    dam morris is playin well right now. Good defense, and nice drive

  • Drew

    Not complaining, but did anyone else think that DMo’s take looked like a travel in real time?

  • http://www.umhoops.com Dylan

    So much for defending the three point shot…

  • Mike

    That NW trap sucks

  • Drew

    Hey Northwestern, miss a shot. Thanks.

  • http://www.umhoops.com Dylan

    Good luck beating Northwestern when you leave them this open from three… and when they hit everything.

  • Brad

    is anyone else seeing BLATANT moving screens on every NW posession?

  • Giddings

    I would be OK with NW’s barrage of threes if they were at least challenged shots. But no, almost every shot has been wide open. I’m screaming at my TV, because you know if they get an open look they are gonna make it (wouldn’t that be nice if it were the case for our team??).

  • Sam

    referees, especially big ten refs, just don’t call moving screens. you have to somehow find a way to fight through

  • AG2

    Northwestern is shooting like the gym is empty. There is absolutely no pressure and they’re shooting like it. What is that, 5 3′s in a row?

  • AG2

    Ok, now I’m optimistic. LLP is the ultimate road warrior.

  • Brad

    I agree Sam, but it just has to be called when the screener is literally taking a guy from the top of the key mid way into the lane….but man, can we bottle this shooting night as well? this is pure fire

  • ZRL

    THE ROAD WARRIOR STRIKES AGAIN!

  • http://www.umhoops.com Dylan

    Michigan hitting their own three point shots. This reminds me a bit of last year’s Oakland game… Everything going in. Just missing the tempo.

  • Mike

    3 point shooting fest

  • jim

    How big are the nets???

  • AG2

    That’s 6 in a row for NW. They’re shooting 7/10 just like in the 2nd half last time.

  • Sam

    i completely agree brad

  • Alex

    Manny has three turnovers already.

  • http://www.umhoops.com Dylan

    Everyone hitting shots… but Novak. And now he picked up his second.

  • Drew

    Nice flop Luka. I hate that worthless piece of sh**. Another game where we get NO calls.

  • AG2

    Did BTN put a tape of the 2nd half of the last game or something?

  • Lavall

    How do refs continue to call those garbage flops? Can’t blame players for doing it when these garbage refs continually call it.

  • gpsimms

    whelp, if we were gonna win this game it had to be with defense…no way we make this many 3s next half. d needs to come alive or else we’re in trouble…………..just as i was typing this we put a few strong defensive possessions together. keep it up fellas

  • JB

    the combination of nw’s slow mo 8 vs. 5 offense utilizing the refs reminds me of the wisky game…i’m getting sleepy just talking about it. shurna shoots like a kindergartener who the ball is too heavy for. if only we covered him and these other players. god, this is pathetic.

  • http://www.umhoops.com Dylan

    So that making shots thing ended there down the stretch. Northwestern getting way too many easy buckets too.

  • Drew

    How many times this year am I going to f*** up my hand because I can’t resist punching the door during games? Don’t recall doing it nearly as much last year. ugh

  • AG2

    It was the worst of both halves from the last game. NW is shooting lights out from 3 again, and there also giving Luka Mirkovic everything he wants down low.

    Michigan needs to step up the intensity big time. A little bit of running like that coast-to-coast Darius Morris and one.

  • Brad

    yep AG, Peedi definitely did not have a strong half defensively…man it sucks to be beat by such an awkward player (Mirkovic)

  • eddie

    Manny’s got to get it together. Too many turnovers and too many flat footed threes. I’d like to see Deshawn get the ball on the perimeter and take it to the hole like he did on the game’s first possession too.

  • http://umhoops.com Wayman Britt

    We have to win at NW. The crowd there is weak. This is probably the easist place to play on the road in the Big Ten.

    Novak please start hitting your shots.

  • Giddings

    A few halftime stats of note:
    - UM is 6-18 from three; 18 threes is too much IMO. NW only took 12 despite the fact that they were hotter than we were. Let’s see more of Manny catching the ball in the middle of the zone then driving to the hoop.
    - NW has 13 assists on 14 field goals, pretty impressive but that’s their MO.
    - Mirkovic with 10 pts, Peedi with 4. We CANNOT lose this matchup. Mirkovic is truly the x-factor for NW and is taking Peedi 1-on-1.
    - Manny with 3 turnovers, rest of team with 1. Argh.

  • http://www.umhoops.com Dylan

    Halftime four factors.

    Michigan 1.10 points per trip, 51.9% eFG, 33.3% three pont, 31.3 OR%, 14.7% turnovers, 11.1 FTR. Northwestern 1.29 points per trip, 70% eFG, 58.3% three point, 27.3% OR, 0 FTR

  • Giddings

    70% eFG, yikes.

  • AG2

    Well, now’s as good a time as any to win the second half guys!

  • Drew

    No points on first 4 possessions. Sweet. Then Manny misses a lay up. I’m gonna lose it, real soon.

  • http://www.umhoops.com Dylan

    Speaking of those moving picks.. there’s one on Michigan…

  • KurtD

    Pull-up and glass, Manny!

  • Giddings

    Certainly didn’t look much different than NW’s picks, but Gibson is notorious for picking up fouls like that.

  • Mike

    why does Douglass shoot NBA 3s

  • http://www.umhoops.com Dylan

    Manny is 3 of 12 from the field. Yikes.

  • AG2

    Michigan is trading missed 3′s for NW layups. I’ve been fairly consistent in my defense of Beilein, but he seems to be getting out-coached here.

  • Drew

    Ok I’m only saying this because I’m angry right now and will realize in a couple hours how dumb it is, but Manny owes us another year.

  • jmblue

    How many personals does DeShawn have? I was surprised he was sitting so early.

  • Mike

    OMG. WTF was that Manny

  • jmblue

    Ugh – no ball movement at all on offense. Come on.

  • JRose

    Manny continues to struggle! I feel like he almost has to stay just to prove he doesn’t have so many weaknesses. If we can get the ball to Sims, I think we win a close one.

  • http://www.umhoops.com Dylan

    Stu Douglass heads to the lockerroom after what looked like a turned ankle.

  • Mike

    i dont think he headed to lockerroom just bench. Man this is one ulgy second half of b-ball

  • AG2

    From the stattracker it looks like NW is dominating the offensive glass.

  • Giddings

    At the very least, please don’t “settle”, Manny. You’re the most talented player on the floor, aren’t you?

  • Drew

    6-5 is the second half score I believe. Yup i’m convinced, Manny does owe us another year.

  • Giddings

    7-24 (29%) three-point shooting now… right at our average!

  • AG2

    One of these two teams is going to pick up the scoring. How many of you think it’ll be M?

  • Mike

    not lookin good man we keep missing in the paint

  • jmblue

    What happened to us going backdoor? Remember the game-winner against UCLA last year? Movement without the ball has been seriously missing this year.

  • http://www.umhoops.com Dylan

    Ok, at this point this is just pathetic.

  • AG2

    Sweet merciful God we’re finally in the bonus.

  • Mike

    5 points this half lol

  • Sam

    This is just sick. Big Ten Tourney, here we come

  • Mike

    I can’t watch michigan basketball n more

  • http://www.umhoops.com Dylan

    5 points in 12 and a half minutes. Pathetic.

  • gpsimms

    well. crap.

  • Mike

    crawford is a luckiest player

  • maxwell’s demon

    Well this is our worst game of a terrible year.

  • KurtD

    Speechless…almost. Why no timeouts?

  • jmblue

    The annoying thing is that you know we’ll get hot at the very end and lose by like 5.

  • JRose

    Swept by NW…that is a sad day! At some point you’d think we’d get a hand at Crawford. anyone else think going zone against NW is probably a bad idea when they are raining 3′s…not the greatest coaching move. All in all the guys just look like they’ve packed it in…I hope this is not a sign of things to come!

  • gpsimms

    in his defense, that buzzer beater was pretty nice. the role was LLP vs. indiana in its luck. but, like kenpom says, that is the difference between this year and last year. last year we got sick bounces.

    although this game has nothing to do with luck. we look like we’re back in non-conference play. deshawn disappearing. defense is awful. people look like theyre not trying.

    i had honestly convinced myself this team had found its identity as a hard nosed defensive team. lolme.

  • Drew

    Drew Crawford is my new favorite player to hate, just ahead of Kramer and PJ Hill. I need a UMHoops community opinion… I’ve watched this whole game, my heart hurts. Have a test 3 tomorrow, first class all day. Should I drink? Cause I could go for one right now.

  • JRose

    How long until Spring Training starts?

  • DPill

    Crawford is out scoring our entire team in the second half…

  • AG2

    Only hope now is to do nothing but get to the free throw line. Except Manny is only 1-3 from the line anyway.

  • JimC

    Is it over yet?

    I’ll tell you what makes following this team a lot better:
    straight Scotch.

  • gpsimms

    let’s do it fellas. goin for 10 this half.

  • gpsimms

    10!

  • Drew

    Turned the game off. Haven’t done it in a few years. New low. F@%^ this.

  • AG2

    I’m reaching back and the closest I can come to a similar beatdown is when Purdue was a 9 win team back when Matt Painter first started out and they beat us at Mackey by 20+ 2 years in a row.

  • sweaty heartbreak

    looking forward to the morris bartlestein era!

  • Adam

    Michigan needs to mail in the rest of the season and go for the #1 pick in the draft… they have those in college right?

  • http://www.umhoops.com Dylan

    There were some pretty bad beatdowns the year when it was Dion Harris and the band of walk-ons. Purdue was definitely one of em, that might be the game you are referring to.

    This was downright pathetic. There’s really nothing else to say. What’s the mgoblog protocol? Kitten pictures or something?

  • gpsimms

    i find brian’s old cat lady-ness creepy. WOW crawford.

  • Drew

    Just give us something Dylan.

    I turn the game back on and I see Drew Crawford throw a pile of sh** over his head on a reverse layup, get hacked, and it goes on. That’s what I get for going back on my word.

  • Michael P

    This team has packed it in. What poor perimeter defense and help defense. There is nobody that can score inside the arc, and the so-called shooters are very often off-balance or have a hand in their face, or just can’t make an open three…just poor offense and shot selection.
    This was hard to watch.

  • AG2

    Dylan are you referring to the year that Daniel Horton was suspended and Amaker mishandled Abram’s shoulder injury?

  • Drew

    Going out to smoke my first sober cigarette in months before LOST starts. Thanks Bball team.

  • gpsimms

    can we have a really interesting discussion with “fans” who “know a lot” and “played” and were “stars” in highschool about beilein’s job security now? that is the only thing that can perfect my night.

  • Drew

    Dylan just curious what your “hahaha” tweet was referring too? Did I miss something?

  • jmblue

    What gets me is that NW is playing without its best player (Coble).

  • DPill

    Question.. who was the President the last time Michigan got swept by NW?

  • gpsimms

    he’s laughing at you, drew, for turning the game back on.

  • Michael P

    What are the odds Smo and Hardaway start day one, with the lack of scorers on this team? Trey Zeigler looks more and more important every game.

  • http://www.umhoops.com Dylan

    Drew: Just taking out my frustrating with laughter….

  • Paul F.

    Is it to late to root for the womans team?

  • sweaty heartbreak

    hate to start the next year talk…but how the hell are we going to look next year?

    lineup of morris douglas novak smorzy and morgan? Seems like 5-11 BT record

  • JimC

    HOW DO WE HANDLE ANOTHER COLLAPSE???
    DYLAN, SOMEONE, HELP!!!

  • Old Style

    With Michigan football/basketball and the Tigers last year I may give up sports. I heard reading is fun.

  • jmblue

    DPill – Calvin Coolidge?

  • other steve

    We swept northwestern last year which helped us make the Dance. Maybe their sweep of us will contribute to them making the tourney for the first time ever! I guess it could be worse. We could be northwestern fans and never seen our team play in the NCAA. Seriously i know northwestern is a solid team… BUT 14 POINTS IN THE 2ND HALF BEFORE GARBAGE TIME! Jesus… Frustrating to say the least.

  • gpsimms

    dylan: do we have to do +/- for this? i think it’s like this:
    manny -298
    deshawn -928
    gibson: -912
    stu:-2929
    crawford: +9872396712837989871239798

  • DPill

    Answer: 1966-1967 President: Lyndon B. Johnson

  • Alex

    This is a terrible loss. This is ridiculous. We should not lose by this much to Northwestern. Maybe we should have lost but not by this much. This tells me the team did not care and that maybe I should check out as well. As my friend said they showed no heart tonight.

    Wow.

  • http://umhoops.com Wayman Britt

    Wow was that pathetic. We probably won’t even make the NIT.

    Coach Beilein – please hit the recruitment trial.

  • jmblue

    Should we still assume Manny’s gone after this year? His stock doesn’t seem to have gone up.

  • KurtD

    Dylan, need something besides kittens. How about an animated gif of all our backboard bricks from tonite?

  • DaveR

    Ugly.

    Most telling play of the game? Manny drives, looks for somebody to drop it off to, then dumps to Novak who realizes he isn’t a post player and runs outside again.

    Destroyed in the paint again.

    Forced to jack up a lot of low percentage threes again.

    This team neeeeeeeeeds mooooooore talent – especially in the frontcourt.

    NIT or bust.

  • Giddings

    What I saw tonight was Manny and Peedi struggle with Northwestern’s hustle, then get frustrated, then spread that frustration to their teammates. A classic example (again) of why we miss Dave and CJ.

    Manny sometimes plays like a diva and tonight Peedi fell victim to the same attitude. There are times when I feel like we would “click” better without Manny on the team, just because Beilein’s offense has never revolved around a star player. If you take Manny or Deshawn off of our team I’d say our talent would be about equal with NW’s. As it is tonight we had the talent advantage but it couldn’t offset the effort and mental advantage that NW had.

  • Old Style

    Stu and Novak didn’t have offers from many major conference D1 teams and it’s becoming painfully obvious why.

  • http://umhoops.com Wayman Britt

    You know what’s depressing, is looking what we have coming back for next year. Vogrich can’t play in this league. Morris shows some promise, but hasn’t developed nearly worth his H.S. ratings. He has no offensive game. LLP is just okay. Hopefully our in coming recruits are better than their ratings.

  • john

    Bye bye beilein thanks for all the mac talent

  • AG2

    That’s a bold statement, Giddings. Remember, Michael Thompson was a McDonalds All American before he transferred from Duke.

  • Drew

    At least State’s getting whacked. Even though I’m only watching outta the corner of my eye while LOST is on, so I’m not getting the full enjoyment.

  • JRose

    Dylan, I think you should get a pass on this post game…you shouldn’t have to relive this pathetic game!

  • DF

    Thank god I’m a Yankees fan…

  • Jay

    Must say after reading these comments, im happy I didnt leave work to watch this beating. It’s to the point I rather be in the office, then in front of the tube to watch this supposedly good shooting team miss shots every game. If we cant go outside, we have to be able to shoot…if we cant shoot then we pretty much are terrible because there is nobody who can create outside of Manny! It’s simple when it comes to Stu and Zack both are talented, but not starter minutes talented but were stuck with playing them cause Beilein had to offer someone he felt fit his system, instead of eating one of those schollies Tom Crean style. O well, maybe they can save face and at least make the NIT

  • Drew

    angelique just tweeted that Manny’s coming back (for now). I dont know what to think. I’m gonna try to be thankful, but it’s hard.

  • JB

    who is angelique that’s tweeting about manny?

  • michigan fan

    Please coach, would you please recruit some players over 6’5″ that are good. I know Udoh and Cronin were big hits we took.

  • Giddings

    AG2, maybe you are thinking of a different Michael Thompson? His Scout page shows him as a 3-star with his only other offers being Bradley, Dayton, and Middle Tennessee:
    http://northwestern.scout.com/a.z?s=179&p=8&c=1&nid=2512124

    I’d take Manny, Deshawn, LLP, and Darius in a talent competition over Shurna, Mirkovic, Thompson, and Crawford. Nash and Marcotullio may have a slight edge over Stu and Novak. Gibson has the edge over Rowley.

    I just wish our guys played with the same fire as those NW guys do. It’s what got us to the Tourney last year and it’s what’s preventing us from getting there this year (well, that and failing to make wide open threes).

  • Drew

    Angelique is a beat writer for the Detroit News. She’s credible.

  • Drew

    Sorry my other comment is awaiting moderation as I used to dirty word to describe the Freep (lol)
    http://freep.com/article/20100202/SPORTS06/100202076/1355/SPORTS/Manny-Harris-vows-to-come-back-for-senior-year

  • AG2

    What does Angelique Changelis base her statement on?

  • gpsimms

    i would never wish an injury on a player. and i enjoy watching lucas play. BUT, if he was gonna turn his ankle anyway, why couldn’t he do it sometime, say, right around with 10 seconds left in our game?

  • Erik

    I don’t know…I’d take Shurna over anyone on our team (except probably Peedi). Unlike our team, he can actually shoot.

  • gpsimms

    also: is it just me or does stu hit 2 threes early in every game? and then go nearly 0-fer for the rest. my friend was talking to me about this and he had this theory: stu has a lot more responsibilities this year: more minutes, more press breaking, more top-guard defensive assignments…

    is he losing his legs? it’s amazing how much lower every single players 3 pt% is this year than last…Did you all realize even Manny shot 32% last year (down to 29% this year)…also, funny, Manny led the team in 3pt attempts last year. that surprised me.

  • gpsimms

    last thing for tonight: wisconsin appeared beatable when leuer just went down…got beat soundly by osu, struggled at home against us, needed OT to beat psu…

    but after that they played purdue tough on the road, and are blowing out msu at home. they’re coming into their own without leuer. nankovil has had some nice games, and this jordan taylor kid is going crazy. i officially think we’ve got no chance on saturday. (which, of course the way this year has gone, probably means we have a chance)

  • jmblue

    I’ve noticed the same thing. Novak sometimes will do likewise. They’ll drain a couple early ones but can’t seem to stay hot after that. Granted, it’s a low-percentage shot by design, but it’s frustrating that opposing guys like Crawford don’t seem to have this problem.

  • DPill

    Manny Fresh Harris The media is crazy, they force me to talk about stuff then take what they want out of it!!!!

    Manny’s Facebook status 2 minutes ago.
    Not sure what to take from it

  • Giddings

    gpsimms and jmblue, it is interesting to think about how many guys on this team are playing out of position.
    - Stu is a SG playing PG
    - Novak is a SG/SF playing PF
    - Peedi is a PF playing C
    - LLP is a SG occasionally playing PG

    Really the only true contributors playing at their natural positions are Manny and Darius. It’s gotta have at least some effect on the shooting percentages…

  • Drew

    also just saw Manny’s status… I think we might as well kiss him good bye. he ain’t coming back. sorry for getting hopes up.

  • KevinTh

    Beilein has got to go. Ask yourself, can we do better? The answer is yes. This is not the way basketball should be played. I’m sick of recruiting “projects”. GO GET PLAYERS!!!!!!

  • other steve

    on the free press and detroit news websites they just ran articles saying that manny said he wanted to come back. what does his status say and why the change?

  • Tweeter

    Well Im real glad I dvr’d that. It was nice to be able to fast forward most of the second half. On Manny – who cares? I like the guys talent but I am so sick of him being a head case. If he goes pro, then good. If he stays, then good. Either way I am not going to lose sleep over it.

    What happened to DEshawn? I know he struggled a lot in this game and seemed out of it especially on D, but was still surprised to see such little playing time.

    Well I guess its on to 7-1.

  • http://wolverineliberationarmy.com chitownblue

    It’s too bad that this site gets trolled now. Kevinth – I don’t think you’re what anyone here wants to deal with.

  • alf

    Anybody feeling better about that 96-team NCAA field yet?

  • Tweeter

    Wouldnt make a difference if the field was 337 or 2, this team has just been disappointing. So much potential, just no leaders. This team has no identity. You cant force players to be leaders when they just arent that type of guy. Its just unfortunate that none of the guys who were in position to be a leader, had that ability.

    One thing I found interesting during this game, was that Beilein did not take timeouts during NWs run in the second half. At first I was like what are you doing, then I was like, ok I like it, a little bit of Coach K there, but then I kinda felt like he had just resigned himself to the fact that this team did not have it tonight and no number of talkings to was going to do any good.

    When you watched last years team, and maybe this was due to the fact that we had not had a team to really get behind in some time, but you always got a little bit of an energy feeling. You felt like they would do everything that they possibly could to win. This year, its just not there. It seems like more teams are out hustling us. There is no bounce in the step. Everyone just kinda plays the game and seems disconnected from all the other players.

    Ugh I need to sleep. At least we got signing day tomorrow to take our minds off the disaster that was tonights game.

  • fresh

    the only thing we can say is that beilein still doesnt have a true 4 or 5 man “playing” on this team yet and i suppose we are young but if in 2-3 years from now we are good then its on to the next coach

  • fresh

    we are not good

  • Alex

    Give Beilein some more time. This season is a dissapointment but he did lead us to the NCAAs last year. Besides I think we are starting to get some nice classes and we have a coach that actually developes his players.

  • Junderground

    As for next year, if we don’t get any more recruits, it will be brutal with Harris gone, and hard to predict with him here. I get the sense we’ll sign at least one more guy, and maybe he’ll be Horford or someone of similar stature. So it’s a bit early to start speculating–we don’t know the personnel. Someone above gave Morris Stu Zack Smotry and Morgan as the starting lineup. That WOULD be brutal, because even if Morgan really steps up, you’d still be looking at just him and Smotrycz and three essentially ineffectual players. But I don’t think it’s going to be that lineup for much of the year, even if Manny goes to the NBDL. In any event, we should be able to expect a lot of inconsistency with a very young lineup, and hopefully ’11-12 will see the team gelling and looking sharp.

  • alf

    The person who mentioned JB’s not taking timeouts has a good point. He sometimes seems so calm on the sidelines when other coaches (and not just that evil Martin guy from Kansas State) would be utterly fuming.

    But what’s the point in complaining. Either we get better or we don’t, and the world keeps turning either way — even if PSU wins at Crisler.

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