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	<title>Comments on: Game 19: Michigan at Purdue Preview</title>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 18:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well disheartening news to say the least per Manny. This feels eerily similar to his benching last year against Iowa. If he is not back for the State game, kiss the season goodbye.

As for Grady, I like to hear this, but I just don&#039;t know what kind of difference he can make at this point. However, for everyone wondering, if it means anything, I just saw him playing in an IM bball game on Monday night, so perhaps he has been playing for a little while now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well disheartening news to say the least per Manny. This feels eerily similar to his benching last year against Iowa. If he is not back for the State game, kiss the season goodbye.</p>
<p>As for Grady, I like to hear this, but I just don&#8217;t know what kind of difference he can make at this point. However, for everyone wondering, if it means anything, I just saw him playing in an IM bball game on Monday night, so perhaps he has been playing for a little while now.</p>
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		<title>By: ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 18:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are your predictions on the starting 5 today?
Will Novak start at the 3 or will Vogrich or wright?
stu, LLP, Novak, Sims, Gibson?
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Stu, LLP, (vogrich or Wright), Novak, Sims?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are your predictions on the starting 5 today?<br />
Will Novak start at the 3 or will Vogrich or wright?<br />
stu, LLP, Novak, Sims, Gibson?<br />
or<br />
Stu, LLP, (vogrich or Wright), Novak, Sims?</p>
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		<title>By: ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 18:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Manny is good, Do not get me wrong...  I just do not see manny being as huge of a loss as everyone else does next year.  Especially if we get Zeigler. But even if we do not I still dont see it as big as everyone else does.  As much as manny is are best player some days... he also hurts us quite a bit by some dumb decisions he makes on shots.  He is not a leader. I realize with out him this year we would be hurting even more...  But next year with the recruits coming in.. I think we will be just fine.
I am sorry since most of you will probably disagree with me... But I acctually would not care if he came back next year.
I am acctually excited for the outlook of next years team and with the possible addition of Horford and Zeigler.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Manny is good, Do not get me wrong&#8230;  I just do not see manny being as huge of a loss as everyone else does next year.  Especially if we get Zeigler. But even if we do not I still dont see it as big as everyone else does.  As much as manny is are best player some days&#8230; he also hurts us quite a bit by some dumb decisions he makes on shots.  He is not a leader. I realize with out him this year we would be hurting even more&#8230;  But next year with the recruits coming in.. I think we will be just fine.<br />
I am sorry since most of you will probably disagree with me&#8230; But I acctually would not care if he came back next year.<br />
I am acctually excited for the outlook of next years team and with the possible addition of Horford and Zeigler.</p>
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		<title>By: Tweeter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tweeter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 18:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. S dont necessarily disagree with what you are saying.  As I said my concern is with how the team is playing, if Grady helps then great, I&#039;m just not optimistic about his return really helping.

I mentioned Vogrich loosing minutes, but it in regards to the fact that Stu would be taking more minutes now at the two, and then LLP would lose minutes.  That could mean that LLP or Stu sees some minutes at the three in replace of the minutes that vogrich was getting.  I dont want to see Vogrich lose minutes because as limited as they are right now for him, I believe they are important to his development.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. S dont necessarily disagree with what you are saying.  As I said my concern is with how the team is playing, if Grady helps then great, I&#8217;m just not optimistic about his return really helping.</p>
<p>I mentioned Vogrich loosing minutes, but it in regards to the fact that Stu would be taking more minutes now at the two, and then LLP would lose minutes.  That could mean that LLP or Stu sees some minutes at the three in replace of the minutes that vogrich was getting.  I dont want to see Vogrich lose minutes because as limited as they are right now for him, I believe they are important to his development.</p>
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		<title>By: Tweeter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tweeter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 17:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok so at least it appears that the suspension is going to be short.  Here are Beilein&#039;s comments:

&quot;Unfortunately he used poor judgment on Friday. It is best for Manny&#039;s future if he stays home and sits out this Purdue game. We will meet with Manny and the team again when we return to determine if he has learned enough from this suspension to rejoin the team for Tuesday&#039;s game. I am confident that this learning experience will be valuable in the future to both Manny and our basketball program.&quot;


http://www.annarbor.com/sports/um-basketball/manny-harris-suspended-for-todays-game-at-purdue-michigan-basketball-coach-john-beilein-says/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok so at least it appears that the suspension is going to be short.  Here are Beilein&#8217;s comments:</p>
<p>&#8220;Unfortunately he used poor judgment on Friday. It is best for Manny&#8217;s future if he stays home and sits out this Purdue game. We will meet with Manny and the team again when we return to determine if he has learned enough from this suspension to rejoin the team for Tuesday&#8217;s game. I am confident that this learning experience will be valuable in the future to both Manny and our basketball program.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.annarbor.com/sports/um-basketball/manny-harris-suspended-for-todays-game-at-purdue-michigan-basketball-coach-john-beilein-says/" rel="nofollow">http://www.annarbor.com/sports/um-basketball/manny-harris-suspended-for-todays-game-at-purdue-michigan-basketball-coach-john-beilein-says/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dr. S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 17:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the Grady rumor is true, I think it means the Stu at PG experiment is over.  I realize Stu has been at PG all year so it really hasn&#039;t been an experiment as much as it has been out of necessity. We lost 3 PGs from last year&#039;s team and therefore JB had no choice but to use Stu in that manner.  Let&#039;s face it, Stu is not a PG.  Any time he penetrates it is forced (it&#039;s unnatural for a SG) and he has proven he can&#039;t finish at the hoop either. As I recall, Grady struggled with finishing last year also, but he was very effective at getting penetration and opening the middle up for Sims or dishing back out to the perimeter.

Permanently moving Stu to SG allows Morris to take over the  PG responsibilities and I think at this point of the season, regardless of how we finish, it is time for Darius to take over the PG position.  He was recruited for that position and he needs to be allowed to assume that role for this team - he is going to be this team&#039;s leader in that spot for the next 3 years.  He will still make the freshman mistakes and even have bad games, but I think Coach B making the decison to &quot;turn over the team&quot; to him will be a tremondous boost of confidence because he will know he can make mistakes and not get benched. I believe it will pull his performance up to this higher level of expectation from Bielien.

When Darius does revert to freshman moments Grady will provide an ample replacement - especially on offense because he will continue to provide the penetration that Darius provides when he is in the game.  Yes defense will suffer while Grady is in, but no more so than when any of the other bench members come into the game to spell a starter.  I would envision a Morris/Grady split of 30/10 per game.  Another thing I always liked about Grady last year was that he seemed to get the team out running more - he is definitely a fast break initator.  No, up tempo is not our main focus, but when we get into the offensive lulls he provides an excellent change of pace off the bench that can reignite the offense.

Lastly, I have felt all season that the reason Stu&#039;s shooting is out of sorts is because he is playing out of position.  The PG  has a lot of other responsibilities that detract from what Stu does best - whether starting or coming in off the bench - shoot threes.  Alternating &quot;microwaves&quot; between Stu and LLP is a luxury most teams don&#039;t have.  Somebody mentioned Grady would take pt from Vogrich, but Vogrich has been spelling Manny lately and I think that is good way to get him a few minutes every game. Vogrich&#039;s defense is not good enough for him to merit any more than 5-8 minutes a game anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Grady rumor is true, I think it means the Stu at PG experiment is over.  I realize Stu has been at PG all year so it really hasn&#8217;t been an experiment as much as it has been out of necessity. We lost 3 PGs from last year&#8217;s team and therefore JB had no choice but to use Stu in that manner.  Let&#8217;s face it, Stu is not a PG.  Any time he penetrates it is forced (it&#8217;s unnatural for a SG) and he has proven he can&#8217;t finish at the hoop either. As I recall, Grady struggled with finishing last year also, but he was very effective at getting penetration and opening the middle up for Sims or dishing back out to the perimeter.</p>
<p>Permanently moving Stu to SG allows Morris to take over the  PG responsibilities and I think at this point of the season, regardless of how we finish, it is time for Darius to take over the PG position.  He was recruited for that position and he needs to be allowed to assume that role for this team &#8211; he is going to be this team&#8217;s leader in that spot for the next 3 years.  He will still make the freshman mistakes and even have bad games, but I think Coach B making the decison to &#8220;turn over the team&#8221; to him will be a tremondous boost of confidence because he will know he can make mistakes and not get benched. I believe it will pull his performance up to this higher level of expectation from Bielien.</p>
<p>When Darius does revert to freshman moments Grady will provide an ample replacement &#8211; especially on offense because he will continue to provide the penetration that Darius provides when he is in the game.  Yes defense will suffer while Grady is in, but no more so than when any of the other bench members come into the game to spell a starter.  I would envision a Morris/Grady split of 30/10 per game.  Another thing I always liked about Grady last year was that he seemed to get the team out running more &#8211; he is definitely a fast break initator.  No, up tempo is not our main focus, but when we get into the offensive lulls he provides an excellent change of pace off the bench that can reignite the offense.</p>
<p>Lastly, I have felt all season that the reason Stu&#8217;s shooting is out of sorts is because he is playing out of position.  The PG  has a lot of other responsibilities that detract from what Stu does best &#8211; whether starting or coming in off the bench &#8211; shoot threes.  Alternating &#8220;microwaves&#8221; between Stu and LLP is a luxury most teams don&#8217;t have.  Somebody mentioned Grady would take pt from Vogrich, but Vogrich has been spelling Manny lately and I think that is good way to get him a few minutes every game. Vogrich&#8217;s defense is not good enough for him to merit any more than 5-8 minutes a game anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Tweeter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tweeter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 17:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh come one Jalen, if its even true, best recruit of the 10-11 class?  Smotrycz is ranked like 52 by rivals and Hardaway has been more highly regarded by scouts than Grady was.  Grady was a decent player and he certainly brought shooting and a little athleticism to the offense, but CJ Lee was far important over the course of the season than Grady was.  The team played leaps and bounds better with Lee starting than they did with Grady.

My concern is not so much with who gets minutes, as it is with how well the team is going to play.  They seem to have found their stride a little bit as of late, and it has been keyed by their defensive performances more than anything.  Having more offense is always nice, but it doesnt do you any good if it costs you more points on the other end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh come one Jalen, if its even true, best recruit of the 10-11 class?  Smotrycz is ranked like 52 by rivals and Hardaway has been more highly regarded by scouts than Grady was.  Grady was a decent player and he certainly brought shooting and a little athleticism to the offense, but CJ Lee was far important over the course of the season than Grady was.  The team played leaps and bounds better with Lee starting than they did with Grady.</p>
<p>My concern is not so much with who gets minutes, as it is with how well the team is going to play.  They seem to have found their stride a little bit as of late, and it has been keyed by their defensive performances more than anything.  Having more offense is always nice, but it doesnt do you any good if it costs you more points on the other end.</p>
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		<title>By: Tweeter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tweeter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 17:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely pure speculation with no foundation in known fact whatsoever, but could the odd timing of the Grady talk be due to the fact that Manny may be suspended longer than just today&#039;s game?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely pure speculation with no foundation in known fact whatsoever, but could the odd timing of the Grady talk be due to the fact that Manny may be suspended longer than just today&#8217;s game?</p>
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		<title>By: JalenIsEmbarrassed</title>
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		<dc:creator>JalenIsEmbarrassed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 17:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Tweeter

Are you seriously concerned with poor Stu and LLP losing playing time?  As I stated last month Grady was the biggest loss from the 2008-2009 team, not to mention our best 3pt shooter by percentage behind CJ Lee. This is a huge recruit for Beilein just landed his best recruit for the &#039;10-&#039;11 season.

Michigan just got quicker and more athletic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Tweeter</p>
<p>Are you seriously concerned with poor Stu and LLP losing playing time?  As I stated last month Grady was the biggest loss from the 2008-2009 team, not to mention our best 3pt shooter by percentage behind CJ Lee. This is a huge recruit for Beilein just landed his best recruit for the &#8217;10-&#8217;11 season.</p>
<p>Michigan just got quicker and more athletic.</p>
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		<title>By: maxwell's demon</title>
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		<dc:creator>maxwell's demon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 16:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is nothing College Gameday likes discussing more than Manny Harris - Kramer incident.

Our chances of a win today just went out the window. Learning experience for Vogrich if nothing else?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is nothing College Gameday likes discussing more than Manny Harris &#8211; Kramer incident.</p>
<p>Our chances of a win today just went out the window. Learning experience for Vogrich if nothing else?</p>
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