Comments on: DetNews: Brandan Kearney Will Pick MSU http://www.umhoops.com/2009/10/15/report-brandan-kearney-to-msu/ Michigan Basketball News, Recruiting, and Analysis Fri, 24 Jun 2011 03:53:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: IT http://www.umhoops.com/2009/10/15/report-brandan-kearney-to-msu/comment-page-1/#comment-18264 IT Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:17:00 +0000 http://www.umhoops.com/?p=5294#comment-18264 It has been really entertaining reading these posts. You U of M fans are dillusional. U of M runs out 4 guards and a big at any given time. You think they are holding back on a talented wing player? Hilarious. MSU adds Adreian Payne and Brandan Kearney inside a week. I know you never had a chance at Payne but its funny that you talk like you are somehow in a recruiting war with MSU. Izzo picks his targets, signs them and Beilein gets what Izzo has passed on. MSU is in a whole different class when it comes to recruiting. It is comical to hear Webb and these guys discuss this like Kearney wanted U of M and just wanted them to show interest. Do any of you really think U of M is in the position to pass on or be passive about a 4 star wing player? Get real. You guys ink players like Kelvin Grady and Zack Novak for heavens sake. I have a name for guys like Novak: bench player. Isiah Dahlman would start at U of M. Good luck with Ziegler and I disagree that its down to CMU and U of M. UCLA should be the frontrunner now if he wants to play pro ball. Also the accusation that Howland isn't in Beilein's class is again, comical. Beilein has been to how many Final Fours? And Howland just got off a run of 3 straight. Discussion over. It has been really entertaining reading these posts. You U of M fans are dillusional. U of M runs out 4 guards and a big at any given time. You think they are holding back on a talented wing player? Hilarious. MSU adds Adreian Payne and Brandan Kearney inside a week. I know you never had a chance at Payne but its funny that you talk like you are somehow in a recruiting war with MSU. Izzo picks his targets, signs them and Beilein gets what Izzo has passed on. MSU is in a whole different class when it comes to recruiting.

It is comical to hear Webb and these guys discuss this like Kearney wanted U of M and just wanted them to show interest. Do any of you really think U of M is in the position to pass on or be passive about a 4 star wing player? Get real. You guys ink players like Kelvin Grady and Zack Novak for heavens sake. I have a name for guys like Novak: bench player. Isiah Dahlman would start at U of M.

Good luck with Ziegler and I disagree that its down to CMU and U of M. UCLA should be the frontrunner now if he wants to play pro ball. Also the accusation that Howland isn’t in Beilein’s class is again, comical. Beilein has been to how many Final Fours? And Howland just got off a run of 3 straight. Discussion over.

]]> By: JB http://www.umhoops.com/2009/10/15/report-brandan-kearney-to-msu/comment-page-1/#comment-18263 JB Sat, 17 Oct 2009 03:09:44 +0000 http://www.umhoops.com/?p=5294#comment-18263 also, assuming i am more knowledgeable about basketball is not foolish. i read your posts. also, assuming i am more knowledgeable about basketball is not foolish. i read your posts.

]]> By: JB http://www.umhoops.com/2009/10/15/report-brandan-kearney-to-msu/comment-page-1/#comment-18262 JB Sat, 17 Oct 2009 03:05:22 +0000 http://www.umhoops.com/?p=5294#comment-18262 JJB - likewise, don't take my braylon comment that seriously. it is a u of m board so anti-spartan talk is appropriate within reason. my math comment was referring to the number of guards ahead of kearney at um compared with msu, don't be so sensitive. i respect msu as a school, just an easy way to push your buttons. i stand by my point, we're way deeper at guard (deeper, not saying you don't have some great talent at guard). as of right now, um is looking to be a guard heavy team over the next few seasons. Stu, Novak, LLP are clearly not stars, but they fit Beilein's system and will have 4 years of experience in it and compete with kearney for pt at a minimum. vogrich and hardaway are much better shooters and will likely play ahead of BK. Morris, Smotz, Brundidge, Zeigler(if we're lucky enough) will most likely play ahead of him. lastly, not interested about your resume. JJB – likewise, don’t take my braylon comment that seriously. it is a u of m board so anti-spartan talk is appropriate within reason. my math comment was referring to the number of guards ahead of kearney at um compared with msu, don’t be so sensitive. i respect msu as a school, just an easy way to push your buttons.
i stand by my point, we’re way deeper at guard (deeper, not saying you don’t have some great talent at guard). as of right now, um is looking to be a guard heavy team over the next few seasons.
Stu, Novak, LLP are clearly not stars, but they fit Beilein’s system and will have 4 years of experience in it and compete with kearney for pt at a minimum. vogrich and hardaway are much better shooters and will likely play ahead of BK. Morris, Smotz, Brundidge, Zeigler(if we’re lucky enough) will most likely play ahead of him.
lastly, not interested about your resume.

]]> By: JJB http://www.umhoops.com/2009/10/15/report-brandan-kearney-to-msu/comment-page-1/#comment-18261 JJB Fri, 16 Oct 2009 23:08:00 +0000 http://www.umhoops.com/?p=5294#comment-18261 I may have strayed a bit from the point I was trying to make. I was responding to JB's post: "I’m gonna diverge from hoping braylon lays his signature 4th quarter spartan smack down on his foolish cousin to appreciate that this top recruit is picking state over UM because he wants playing time." I regard this statement as rather pretentious, because he is saying that it is OK that BK is (likely) headed to MSU because he wants playing time. C'mon, man. Maybe he wants a better chance at playing in the final four, or potentially winning a natl championship? Or maybe he wants to play for Tom Izzo, widely regarded as one of the best coaches in college bball? Maybe he's aware of the fact that we've sent plenty of players to the NBA this decade? In no way am I saying Belein and UM can't offer him any of these things, but recent history favors MSU by an extremely wide margin. That's all I'm saying. I may have strayed a bit from the point I was trying to make. I was responding to JB’s post: “I’m gonna diverge from hoping braylon lays his signature 4th quarter spartan smack down on his foolish cousin to appreciate that this top recruit is picking state over UM because he wants playing time.”

I regard this statement as rather pretentious, because he is saying that it is OK that BK is (likely) headed to MSU because he wants playing time. C’mon, man. Maybe he wants a better chance at playing in the final four, or potentially winning a natl championship? Or maybe he wants to play for Tom Izzo, widely regarded as one of the best coaches in college bball? Maybe he’s aware of the fact that we’ve sent plenty of players to the NBA this decade? In no way am I saying Belein and UM can’t offer him any of these things, but recent history favors MSU by an extremely wide margin. That’s all I’m saying.

]]> By: Respectful Green http://www.umhoops.com/2009/10/15/report-brandan-kearney-to-msu/comment-page-1/#comment-18260 Respectful Green Fri, 16 Oct 2009 21:26:38 +0000 http://www.umhoops.com/?p=5294#comment-18260 JJB, who are all these players that will compete with him? Even if you include Appling as a wing, MSU only has three returning non-point guards in 2011. JB is right. For MSU, it's a sheer lack of quantity, not an issue of quality. Especially if Appling spends a lot of time at PG, the returning wings will be Russell Byrd, a true sophomore, and Austin Thornton, a preferred walk-on. That's it. OUR next man is a freshman. Period. The 2011 wing spots are important for MSU and immediate playing time is available, that's the facts on the court. I love MSU basketball but don't let your allegiance skew things that hard. Don't make me agree with the Wolverines! I bleed Green, but I post on this board because UMhoops is an excellent, well-run site. I think it's important for people posting on a rival's board to be respectful and accurate. JJB, who are all these players that will compete with him? Even if you include Appling as a wing, MSU only has three returning non-point guards in 2011.
JB is right. For MSU, it’s a sheer lack of quantity, not an issue of quality. Especially if Appling spends a lot of time at PG, the returning wings will be Russell Byrd, a true sophomore, and Austin Thornton, a preferred walk-on. That’s it. OUR next man is a freshman. Period.

The 2011 wing spots are important for MSU and immediate playing time is available, that’s the facts on the court.
I love MSU basketball but don’t let your allegiance skew things that hard. Don’t make me agree with the Wolverines!

I bleed Green, but I post on this board because UMhoops is an excellent, well-run site. I think it’s important for people posting on a rival’s board to be respectful and accurate.

]]> By: JJB http://www.umhoops.com/2009/10/15/report-brandan-kearney-to-msu/comment-page-1/#comment-18259 JJB Fri, 16 Oct 2009 21:04:31 +0000 http://www.umhoops.com/?p=5294#comment-18259 I just went back and read my original post - though "idiot" isn't exactly an aggressive insult, it may have been a bit strongly worded in general. I apologize. I do, however, think it's a valid statement that he will have more competition playing at State. I just went back and read my original post – though “idiot” isn’t exactly an aggressive insult, it may have been a bit strongly worded in general. I apologize. I do, however, think it’s a valid statement that he will have more competition playing at State.

]]> By: JJB http://www.umhoops.com/2009/10/15/report-brandan-kearney-to-msu/comment-page-1/#comment-18258 JJB Fri, 16 Oct 2009 21:01:09 +0000 http://www.umhoops.com/?p=5294#comment-18258 First - I called you an idiot....big deal, I didn't know you were that sensitive, relax. I only used that (rather soft) insult because you wrote "spartan smackdown". Second, I gave genuine kudos to your program, which is the absolute opposite of talking crap, so not too sure what you're talking about. Third, I graduated last yr therefore don't have math homework (good joke, though) but since you brought it up I'll let you know I'm doing pretty well for myself. Not that $$ is everything but my resume indicates that you're talking to the wrong State grad....just a major pet peeve of mine, UM folks thinking they are automatically smarter than us. Fourth, why would I trust that you know more about basketball than I do? We don't know eachother so seems rather foolish to me..... My personal opinion: you listed a number of players - LLP, Novak, Vogrich, Douglas, etc. - so clearly you are deep at guard in terms of raw #'s, but when it comes down to Kearney's playing time I regard the quality of the players ahead of him as more important. After watching a good amount of UM hoops last year, including a couple of times at Crisler, IO honestly don't think many of the players listed (of the returning players, at least) should keep Kearney from seeing solid PT. I appreciate that you support your players and I applaud the effort of guys like LLP, Novak, and Douglas but they aren't exactly all-americans and probably wouldn't play too often for a top program. Again, so you don't flip out and think I am bashing them, they all played great last year and earned some respect, but I don't think top recruits are worried about sitting the bench behind them. Just my two cents..... First – I called you an idiot….big deal, I didn’t know you were that sensitive, relax. I only used that (rather soft) insult because you wrote “spartan smackdown”.

Second, I gave genuine kudos to your program, which is the absolute opposite of talking crap, so not too sure what you’re talking about.

Third, I graduated last yr therefore don’t have math homework (good joke, though) but since you brought it up I’ll let you know I’m doing pretty well for myself. Not that $$ is everything but my resume indicates that you’re talking to the wrong State grad….just a major pet peeve of mine, UM folks thinking they are automatically smarter than us.

Fourth, why would I trust that you know more about basketball than I do? We don’t know eachother so seems rather foolish to me…..

My personal opinion: you listed a number of players – LLP, Novak, Vogrich, Douglas, etc. – so clearly you are deep at guard in terms of raw #’s, but when it comes down to Kearney’s playing time I regard the quality of the players ahead of him as more important. After watching a good amount of UM hoops last year, including a couple of times at Crisler, IO honestly don’t think many of the players listed (of the returning players, at least) should keep Kearney from seeing solid PT. I appreciate that you support your players and I applaud the effort of guys like LLP, Novak, and Douglas but they aren’t exactly all-americans and probably wouldn’t play too often for a top program. Again, so you don’t flip out and think I am bashing them, they all played great last year and earned some respect, but I don’t think top recruits are worried about sitting the bench behind them. Just my two cents…..

]]> By: JB http://www.umhoops.com/2009/10/15/report-brandan-kearney-to-msu/comment-page-1/#comment-18257 JB Fri, 16 Oct 2009 20:11:07 +0000 http://www.umhoops.com/?p=5294#comment-18257 JJB - Allen Summers & Lucas, your top three scoring guards, all graduate the year that kearney will be a freshman. kearney will immediately be in your guard rotation. That same year, we will be deep at guard with LLP, Douglas, Novak, Morris, Vogrich, Hardaway, Brundidge, (Smotrycz getting time at 3 and possibly Zeigler or another guard) competing for time. Grow up with the name calling. get on an msu site if you're just trying to talk crap about our program. And trust me, I'm more knowledgeable about basketball than you are. let me know if you have any questions for me. help with math homework? anything. thanks. JJB -

Allen Summers & Lucas, your top three scoring guards, all graduate the year that kearney will be a freshman. kearney will immediately be in your guard rotation.

That same year, we will be deep at guard with LLP, Douglas, Novak, Morris, Vogrich, Hardaway, Brundidge, (Smotrycz getting time at 3 and possibly Zeigler or another guard) competing for time.

Grow up with the name calling. get on an msu site if you’re just trying to talk crap about our program. And trust me, I’m more knowledgeable about basketball than you are. let me know if you have any questions for me. help with math homework? anything. thanks.

]]> By: JJB http://www.umhoops.com/2009/10/15/report-brandan-kearney-to-msu/comment-page-1/#comment-18256 JJB Fri, 16 Oct 2009 19:29:53 +0000 http://www.umhoops.com/?p=5294#comment-18256 Also, I am a huge MSU fan but I will give you guys (Belein) props for doing a good job with recruiting lately and the program in general....that being said, you should not be complaining about not getting Kearney or Ziegler. Rather, you should be ecstatic that you are even in a recruiting race with schools like UCLA & MSU because you are (right now) a small fraction of what we are as programs. Also, I am a huge MSU fan but I will give you guys (Belein) props for doing a good job with recruiting lately and the program in general….that being said, you should not be complaining about not getting Kearney or Ziegler. Rather, you should be ecstatic that you are even in a recruiting race with schools like UCLA & MSU because you are (right now) a small fraction of what we are as programs.

]]> By: JJB http://www.umhoops.com/2009/10/15/report-brandan-kearney-to-msu/comment-page-1/#comment-18255 JJB Fri, 16 Oct 2009 19:24:50 +0000 http://www.umhoops.com/?p=5294#comment-18255 JB, you wrote that he is picking MSU over UM for playing time? You're an idiot. We are a much better program with much better players, he will have stronger competition for playing time at MSU, no question about that. JB, you wrote that he is picking MSU over UM for playing time? You’re an idiot. We are a much better program with much better players, he will have stronger competition for playing time at MSU, no question about that.

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