What are the odds that both this kid and Eso got an academic full-ride? Phillips Exeter is the premier prep school in the country, and Richard is solid academically.

Judging by Josh’s dad’s client list… I don’t think he needs an academic ride.

There are also rules regarding that stuff but I’m not sure exactly what they are.

I love that JB gets these good players to come as walk-ons. These kids are D1 talents and choose to walk-on to Michigan instead of taking a full-ride at a smaller school. If they turn out to be good players and contribute that will be fantastic, but if not, they certainly make practices really competitive and they push the starters to pick up their games.

Hopefully Josh’s Dad doesn’t spend too much time talking to Manny. In all seriousness though, since he’s a big time agent I’m guessing he’s friends with the big AAU and Nike people. Having another person tell them good things about Beilein will only help with recruiting highly ranked players.

Added a little more to the post. Sounds like he can definitely stroke it.

It looks like Coach Beilein is going out, getting excellent practice players, that have D1 talent to make the others better and can compete in practice. Sounds great to me.

Two years ago our practice squad was made up of managers. Now we have four solid players in Bartelstein, Person, Akunne, Puls. I believe Pat Beilein played on the scout team a lot last year as well.

Not bad.

Pat Beilein was probably the scout team’s best shooter at the end of the year and maybe even when LLP was on it last year. Fact is, is this guy ever going to see the court? Nice to have a boost in practice but I don’t think he’ll get ever get anything more than Eric Puls garbage time.

this dude has skills, he has a chance to start just like everyone, but likely won’t happen until yr 3, look at last walkon starters, he lead in scoring and assists, could be a great bench boost

I like this kid. He can shoot 3′s, drive to the hoop dish and score and he play’s defense. Sounds good to me.

It is really amazing how much kids improve in college…especially under JB. He has these kids for HOURS each week and shows them how to “practice with a purpose” when he is not around. In high school these kids just go to the playground and jerk around with each other. I think you’ll find that some of these walk-ons really improve and earn scholarships before they graduate.

JB is not the only one that pulls solid walk-ons….who was that white kid that chose to walk on at Louisville over a scholarship from us? Kyle Kuric, that’s the guy. I think that was the situation.

solid combo guard judging from the film. And if his defense develops, and picks up the offense well, he could see some real minutes in his 3rd/4th years, depend on the situation of early departure, injury, etc. CJ Lee definitely showed us how walk-ons can contribute in Beilein’s team.

It is more interesting to see how Beilein maintains the relationship with the senior Bartelstein. I will not be surprised at all if he represents some Michigan players in the future. Just like ZRL said, having another person in the AAU/Nike circle praising the program is never a bad thing.

Doesn’t that make SEVEN Freshmen coming in? Eso, Blake, MV, Cronin, Morgan, Josh, and Morris. That is going to be a TON of practice time teaching them the offense. I’ve never seen a bigger Freshman class.

Tom Too, Cronin red-shirted last season, so did Corel Person. And Eso and Bartelstein could choose to red-shirt too.

If I remember correctly, Kyle Kuric got a scholarship offer from Pitino when he signed. But he could’ve gone to Louisville without a scholarship, so i don’t know.

Dylan,

How many guys can we suit up for each game? I noticed Person didn’t ever dress for a game – was that due to a limitation set by the NCAA?

Kyle was on scholarship at Louisville last year. He was from Evansville and wanted to stay close to home.
Tom Too, who is Josh?

This is not a good pick up. I played with the kid growing up and he never scored more than 5 points a game. He’s 20 years old and he’s going to be a freshman, would be a junior in school next year. Has the worst shooting form I’ve ever seen. This kid won’t play and we don’t need him.

He was the leading scorer of his team last year so I bet he averaged more than 5 points per game. If I didn’t know better, I’d say this kid probably kicked your a$$ on the court and now you’re a little bitter that he has some D1 offers while you’re on a message board trashing the kid. Grow up.

Anonymous…. what???

From NERR:
“He continued to excel over the summer as he starred with the Rising Stars AAU program during the July live period, earning MVP honors of the National Academic Showcase and going for multiple 30+ point performances at the Nike Super Showcase and AAU Nationals. ”

It would seem he has improved since you “played with the kid.” And what harm is there if he isn’t on scholarship??

this kid can really play, i saw him play this year at exeter and he was big time. None of those clips up there are from this year when he played at Exeter, and he has improved alot. also, he averaged around 15 points this year in the best high school league in the country and the NERR article pointed out he was the guy every opposing team wanted to shut down and box and 1.

Anonymous, come on dude. Really.

Do you really think John Beilein would waste his time all day showing Josh around the campus if he wasn’t talented?

Anonymous’ back story:
A 2007 Phillips Exeter grad, Anonymous had been planning on coming to Michigan to play with Tommy Amaker during high school. But, after Amaker’s defection to Harvard, Anon’s dad insisted that he follow Amaker and play for the Crimson. However, in a Tressel-like move, Amaker told Anon that “he didn’t quite fit in well with the offense” any more. Furthermore, despite his father’s large donation to the University, Anon’s application to the school was rejected.

Many media reports indicate that the offer was rescinded due in large part to the fact that Anon’s play went steadily down hill, and he lost confidence and significant playing time due to a young Josh Bartelstein. According to a recent follow-up story, Anon is now taking classes part-time at an elite community college which recently received a significant monetary donation. He struggles mightily with an online gaming addiction to “Second Life”, and has a restraining issued against him to stay away from Bartelstein. Because he can’t come within 100 yds of Bartelstein, Anon now stalks him via the internets, inviting him at least 100 times a day to play MobWars on Facebook.

OMG!!!

You forgot about Josh stealing Anon’s girlfriend.

Anonymous, he was only scoring 5 points a game when you played with him? Ok, so you guys went to elementary school together? Thanks for the complete lack of perspective and departure from reality.

ypsi – Ha, that’s hilarious.

Chris Wrobleowski his teammate was the go to guy, now plays at Cornell. The kid a year older than him, believe his name was Meuser was 10 X the player Bartlestein was. We played Highland Park twice a year, and what we were told was to let the kid shoot from the outside all day. He wasn’t a scoring threat or even a decoy for Wrobleowski. Let’s not forget even if he did play well last year, he was older than every kid there. Don’t get too excited, that’s all I’m saying.

It sounds like you know about him than we do….I am going to wait and see before commenting anymore.

most of the kids in the prep league are all older than josh was and he still put up big numbers in the premier hs league in america. Anon has no idea what he is talking about

His game reminds me of Andre Miller, of course on a smaller level.

Hey Anonymous,

You really have no clue what you are talking about. I was at every single game of Highland Park’s during Josh’s senior year, and while Wroblewski was the go to guy, he averaged around 6 assists due to having a guy like J-Bart on the wing to knock down over 50 threes in the season. Before you run your mouth, just know that the kid is not only extremely skilled, but he is an animal. How many point guards have you played with that are 6’4” 220 lbs? Yeah, I didn’t think so. J-Bart is going to bring a lot to the team, and will be a valuable player for the next for years. Go get em JB.

We can get excited all we want because he decided to WALK ON!! It’s a no lose situation because he isn’t taking up a scholarship! And I guarantee he is a more talented walk-on than is at most other major programs. Anyone who has D1 offers and decides to walk on at Michigan is A-OK with me.

I’m not going to get in an argument battle with anyone and agree with Adam. JB will give us good scout team looks at least with his height. That’s where his impact will be felt. Go Blue

Anonymous, you are a loser. I guarantee he gets playing time within two years. You obviously have issues, and don’t understand basketball. Stop posting on here, no one wants to hear your opinion

Let’s calm down with the hostility.

The odds that Bartelstein contributes on the floor, early in his career at least, are low.

He will be a big boost for the scout team though from day 1 and sounds like he’s all around a good kid.

Ok, let’s back off Anonymous a little here. Remember, he is a Michigan fan after all. I suppose he can have the opinion that this guy won’t have an impact but we can all agree at we’re playing with house money with this guy.

So Dylan, Any other “surprise” players in the works for Beilein? Is he still on the road recruiting?

Beilein will be on the road all summer. We’re just getting started.

there is a new great article on NERR that just went up on Josh. Has personal qoutes i suggest Dylan puts it up. BTW dylan you do a great job running the website

http://newenglandrecruitingreport.com/news/article/792/Bartelstein-Shuns-Offers-Picks-Chance-to-Prove-Self-at-Michigan.php here is the link

Blue,

Did you just GURANTEE JB plays within two years?
Competition at guard includes:
PG: Lucas-Perry, Morris, Douglass (plays a little point)
SG: Harris (one yr at least), Douglass (regular position), Novak, Vogrich, Akunne

That’s 7 guys he has to beat out at least with at least another guard going to be in the 2010 class. I’m just being realistic.

I would have to agree with anonymous. Bartelstein will be nothing more then a good scout team player. He wasnt very good in high school. his shot is very ugly. Yes he hit 50 three pointers but all he really shot was 3 pointers. He averaged about 6 or 7 points. It is very surprising he would average 18 a game at exeter.The talent amongst those prep schools must be very mediocre. Ask anyone who saw him play in hs and they would say he was decent. He is a very hard worker and loves the game and is 6’4, those are his strong points. He is not a D-1 player though, anyone from highland park would tell you that. His dad is Mark Bartelstein, please keep that in mind…..

he played in the best prep league in the country and had 7 or 8 division one offers so im pretty sure he is a D1 player. You cant lookat him from 2 years ago he isnt the same player

I think “walkon” and “anonymous” are the same person. Same points, same writing style. If that’s the case–pretty lame.

Well obviously prep league ball isnt very competitive. If your 6’4 and play 4 years of high school ball and a year of “prep league” and your somewhat connected it isnt very difficult to get yourself a look as a walk on at a D-1 school. Being a D-1 player is a different story….He def would be an asset as a scout team player though with his desire…He was no where as good as wroblewski. Also the mueser kid mentioned above goes to Michigan, he should try and walk on also…

not the same person Ken. We both are probably from HP or Deerfield and have seen him play more then anybody.

Are these “preferred walk on’s” projected to eat up a scholly or two down the road? Or do they basically walk on, play with the practice squad, stick around for a few years and maybe get one their senior year?

it’s interesting that he is a little older, 5 yr HS senior? he did look kinda old in the youtube, but that is good for his maturity, which coach B values, imo he will contribute, grow and be reliable bench player, good for the kid and good for the team

Most of the kids in the NEPSAC are a little older. They typically reclassify when they transfer to prep school, or else go to prep school just for a 5th year.

Smotrycz is an example of reclassifying, he went from a 2009 to 2010 recruit and will play two years at prep school (one down).

McLimans is an example of going for a fifth year, he graduated his HS and decided to enroll at Worcester for his 5th year.

Both of these kids will have gone to high school for five years. Bartelstein’s situation is like McLimans, just one extra year added on.

It looks to me like JB is a late bloomer, which often means continued improvement. Is it true Micheal Jordan was cut as a freshmen in high school. That just illustrates the point, I’m in no way suggesting JB is or ever will be in MJ’s class of player. He could be very good though in time.

not to disparage anyone but if he is not 300%-500% better than the film shows than I should walk on.my guess is he’s not as bad as he looks and without a scholarship there is nothing to lose.

again those films arent from this year one is aau and the other his his highland park team the exeter film isnt up there and he is clearly a d1 player with all those offers some from high majors like san diego uic and elon

He is not a D-1 player. He is a D-1 walk-on, there is a difference. Guys will love him though hes a good kid.

than y does he have 8 scholarship offers to his name and he turned rthem all down

Do you honestly believe he had 8 D-1 offers on the table?More realistically he had 8 offers from schools to be a preffered walkon……

he had 8 offers the articles arent going to lie and i have heard from reliable sources he had them and took official visits to some

Walkon Stats don’t lie get over yourself

None of you know what you’re talking about. He’s gonna be really great. His dad is gonna be awesome for the program

Anon/Walkon, while I repect your opinion, let it rest! The kid is not even at UM yet and you are tearing him down. We should support the kid…he chose UM over schollys eslewhere! He comes at no cost, so why spend your time ripping him…bottom line he CAN help UM basketball in one way or another. I also find it hard to believe that your eye for talent would be superior to Coach B’s.

Well put. Jeez, the kid is on our team now. What do you want to do next, rip on EPuls?

walkon and anon – Stick to what you know, which is obviously not anything in regards to Josh Bartelstein. Josh happens to be a fantastic player and an even better person. You as Michigan fans should feel honored that he chose to attend and play Basketball at Michigan.

Why are you guys fighting over this kid?
He is NOT that good
Im happy Michigan has him but lets not hype this kid and say we should feel “honored”?!?!?!?
He is no matt vogrich, no john wall, no anyone else!
You can tell in his video clips he isnt High Major Division 1 material otherwise he would be playing on a full ride from another big ten school
It seems like you guys defending him are his pathetic high school coach or his dad’s assistant!
Josh is a sub-par player, heck, look who he is playing in the clips..
If he was a high-major player he wouldnt be walking on now would he? period……

As a Highland Parker I think I can offer a reliable opinion. JB was a solid role player at HP. He had a decent outside shot at best and overall was just an average player. I am not totally sure what he did at Exeter but I honestly can’t imagine he improved so much to be able to play at Michigan. He has decent size but thats about it. He lacks athleticism and he is lucky to walk on at UM.