Comments on: Recruiting Roundup: Class of 2010 http://www.umhoops.com/2009/03/30/recruiting-roundup-class-of-2010/ Michigan Basketball News, Recruiting, and Analysis Fri, 24 Jun 2011 03:53:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Dave http://www.umhoops.com/2009/03/30/recruiting-roundup-class-of-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-15294 Dave Wed, 01 Apr 2009 01:10:04 +0000 http://www.umhoops.com/?p=3007#comment-15294 there is obviously going to be great, highly rated kids going to schools that dont do that well, but im just saying that to win national championships you are going to need way better talent than what michigan has, because its just not possible to win national championships by basing a system around shooting 3s........you need more versatility and the higher rated kids obviously will have the most to offer in terms of everything you need to win........beilein needs to consistently pull in kids like deshawn and manny every year and i dont think that being able to do that right now and being able to do that every year is that much to ask and expect there is obviously going to be great, highly rated kids going to schools that dont do that well, but im just saying that to win national championships you are going to need way better talent than what michigan has, because its just not possible to win national championships by basing a system around shooting 3s……..you need more versatility and the higher rated kids obviously will have the most to offer in terms of everything you need to win……..beilein needs to consistently pull in kids like deshawn and manny every year and i dont think that being able to do that right now and being able to do that every year is that much to ask and expect

]]> By: Dr. S http://www.umhoops.com/2009/03/30/recruiting-roundup-class-of-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-15293 Dr. S Wed, 01 Apr 2009 01:07:30 +0000 http://www.umhoops.com/?p=3007#comment-15293 JDS "Seems like Oliver is in the same boat, hopefully as another diamond in the rough as JB can snag him…esp w/o using a scholarhship". Devin Oliver is a huge diamond in the rough - hopefully JB sees it in him. I believe he is Manny's replacement. He is a late bloomer physically (Dylan is correct about him needing to add muscle) - he has grown about 5-6" in the last 18 months and is probably not done growing at 6'5". He is a true Beilein type player plus he can put it on the floor like Manny only with much better handles. He was a PG his freshman year before he started growing so he is an excellent passer and plays very unselfishly - a little too unselfish IMO, he needs to look to score more (although he had plenty of others on his team this year to defer to - Doug Anderson, etal). He led his team Kazoo Central (Class A state runnersup to Pershing)in scoring and rebounding this year and had several games with 5+ assists, multiple steals, and blocked shots. He had a very quiet 21/9/4 blocks in the state championship game (quiet given Applings 49). Look for him next year to really take over his team's leadership - he has tremendous upside potential. He is playing AAU this summer (he did last year also) and interest in him is going to go sky high - JB needs to be on top of him right now. His AAU team played in Vegas last summer and Johnny Dawkins (yes the Dukey) from Stanford has been chasing him for months - Devin is also a straight A student. Because of all the exposure from the state tournament, in the last week he received first time calls from several more schools - including Big 10 scholls. He is a must get for the 2010 class. JDS

“Seems like Oliver is in the same boat, hopefully as another diamond in the rough as JB can snag him…esp w/o using a scholarhship”. Devin Oliver is a huge diamond in the rough – hopefully JB sees it in him. I believe he is Manny’s replacement.

He is a late bloomer physically (Dylan is correct about him needing to add muscle) – he has grown about 5-6″ in the last 18 months and is probably not done growing at 6’5″. He is a true Beilein type player plus he can put it on the floor like Manny only with much better handles. He was a PG his freshman year before he started growing so he is an excellent passer and plays very unselfishly – a little too unselfish IMO, he needs to look to score more (although he had plenty of others on his team this year to defer to – Doug Anderson, etal).

He led his team Kazoo Central (Class A state runnersup to Pershing)in scoring and rebounding this year and had several games with 5+ assists, multiple steals, and blocked shots. He had a very quiet 21/9/4 blocks in the state championship game (quiet given Applings 49). Look for him next year to really take over his team’s leadership – he has tremendous upside potential.

He is playing AAU this summer (he did last year also) and interest in him is going to go sky high – JB needs to be on top of him right now. His AAU team played in Vegas last summer and Johnny Dawkins (yes the Dukey) from Stanford has been chasing him for months – Devin is also a straight A student. Because of all the exposure from the state tournament, in the last week he received first time calls from several more schools – including Big 10 scholls. He is a must get for the 2010 class.

]]> By: Jim http://www.umhoops.com/2009/03/30/recruiting-roundup-class-of-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-15292 Jim Tue, 31 Mar 2009 23:13:58 +0000 http://www.umhoops.com/?p=3007#comment-15292 Dave, you might be right about Lubick, but look where he is now, a Geaorgetown commit that perhaps at the time seemed safe. But look now GT turned out to be a bottom tier team in the Big East even with a top 5 recruit in Greg Monroe. Dave, you might be right about Lubick, but look where he is now, a Geaorgetown commit that perhaps at the time seemed safe. But look now GT turned out to be a bottom tier team in the Big East even with a top 5 recruit in Greg Monroe.

]]> By: Bob http://www.umhoops.com/2009/03/30/recruiting-roundup-class-of-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-15291 Bob Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:27:39 +0000 http://www.umhoops.com/?p=3007#comment-15291 Look. Beilein will be able to get Michigan into the tourney more times than not. It's just if you are a stickler for banners I think we may be dissapointed. He finishes in the middle of the pac in the Big East and Big Ten so far in his career. He has made a sweet sixteen and an elite eight with like no highly ranked players. He was like a half away from a final four at WVU. I still think Tret goes to CMU. Look. Beilein will be able to get Michigan into the tourney more times than not. It’s just if you are a stickler for banners I think we may be dissapointed. He finishes in the middle of the pac in the Big East and Big Ten so far in his career. He has made a sweet sixteen and an elite eight with like no highly ranked players. He was like a half away from a final four at WVU.

I still think Tret goes to CMU.

]]> By: Ben http://www.umhoops.com/2009/03/30/recruiting-roundup-class-of-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-15290 Ben Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:13:59 +0000 http://www.umhoops.com/?p=3007#comment-15290 were going to end up losing out on the better recruits again.... were going to end up losing out on the better recruits again….

]]> By: Brick http://www.umhoops.com/2009/03/30/recruiting-roundup-class-of-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-15289 Brick Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:04:33 +0000 http://www.umhoops.com/?p=3007#comment-15289 It sounds like Smotrycz may have received an offer. I'm wondering what this means for this recruiting class and Regan in particular. I wonder if we would take both. I kind of figured that Regan was going to commit and Smotrycz would be a backup plan. Maybe this is a bird in the hand type situation unless JB sees Smotrycz as a WF and Regan as more of a post player. It sounds like Smotrycz may have received an offer. I’m wondering what this means for this recruiting class and Regan in particular. I wonder if we would take both. I kind of figured that Regan was going to commit and Smotrycz would be a backup plan. Maybe this is a bird in the hand type situation unless JB sees Smotrycz as a WF and Regan as more of a post player.

]]> By: Dave http://www.umhoops.com/2009/03/30/recruiting-roundup-class-of-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-15288 Dave Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:58:14 +0000 http://www.umhoops.com/?p=3007#comment-15288 as for other things i have previously said........kids (lubick, bryd) didnt come to michigan because they thought it was a risky move because they havent been to the tournament in a long time and things of that nature........now these kids cant use that as an excuse as for other things i have previously said……..kids (lubick, bryd) didnt come to michigan because they thought it was a risky move because they havent been to the tournament in a long time and things of that nature……..now these kids cant use that as an excuse

]]> By: Dave http://www.umhoops.com/2009/03/30/recruiting-roundup-class-of-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-15287 Dave Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:17:27 +0000 http://www.umhoops.com/?p=3007#comment-15287 people can say what they want........without better talent michigan will maybe compete for a big ten title every once in a while and will definitely never compete for a national championship thats for sure........yeah its true that wake, ucla, duke and all these other schools have big name players and didnt win their conference, but at the end to the day those are the teams that have the real chance at winning national titles..........keep in mind that michigan used to get the best players in the country to go their.....i cant help it that looking at the teams that win national titles and looking at our team that we will never be competing for titles........but most of you guys for some reason are all smiles for some reason..........look at the best teams in the country and look at the players that they recruit.........that means i win this debate every time.....you cant argue with me about this.....because the teams that are truly the best in the country have the best most highly rated players people can say what they want……..without better talent michigan will maybe compete for a big ten title every once in a while and will definitely never compete for a national championship thats for sure……..yeah its true that wake, ucla, duke and all these other schools have big name players and didnt win their conference, but at the end to the day those are the teams that have the real chance at winning national titles……….keep in mind that michigan used to get the best players in the country to go their…..i cant help it that looking at the teams that win national titles and looking at our team that we will never be competing for titles……..but most of you guys for some reason are all smiles for some reason……….look at the best teams in the country and look at the players that they recruit………that means i win this debate every time…..you cant argue with me about this…..because the teams that are truly the best in the country have the best most highly rated players

]]> By: Ben http://www.umhoops.com/2009/03/30/recruiting-roundup-class-of-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-15286 Ben Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:15:15 +0000 http://www.umhoops.com/?p=3007#comment-15286 I'm Sure Anthony Wright is a Wonderful person off the court and I'm sure he is a great teammate, but having 2 good games the whole year just doesn't cut it and there is a reason why he doesn't see the court very much, he just isn't that good. I'm sorry but I don't like his game and we could use another scholarship for someone that will help us. But I hope I'm wrong and he improves his game over the summer I’m Sure Anthony Wright is a Wonderful person off the court and I’m sure he is a great teammate, but having 2 good games the whole year just doesn’t cut it and there is a reason why he doesn’t see the court very much, he just isn’t that good. I’m sorry but I don’t like his game and we could use another scholarship for someone that will help us. But I hope I’m wrong and he improves his game over the summer

]]> By: Sam http://www.umhoops.com/2009/03/30/recruiting-roundup-class-of-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-15285 Sam Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:58:47 +0000 http://www.umhoops.com/?p=3007#comment-15285 Everyone that is ripping on Beilein's 2008 recruiting class, consider this: Beilein had basically one full year to recruit that class. Usually by an athlete's junior season, they have good ties with a couple schools and are down to a fairly short list. Obviously, Beilein's first priority had to be in getting Grady, Manny, and Legion to stay (although we all know how that last one worked out). In the end, he basically had less than a full year to form ties with players and get them to commit. Considering he got three three-star players that fit his system well, I would say he did a pretty good job. This 2009 class is also very respectable considering the mild success we had last season. Give him some time and I'm sure he will get some quality players that also fit his system. Everyone that is ripping on Beilein’s 2008 recruiting class, consider this: Beilein had basically one full year to recruit that class. Usually by an athlete’s junior season, they have good ties with a couple schools and are down to a fairly short list. Obviously, Beilein’s first priority had to be in getting Grady, Manny, and Legion to stay (although we all know how that last one worked out). In the end, he basically had less than a full year to form ties with players and get them to commit. Considering he got three three-star players that fit his system well, I would say he did a pretty good job. This 2009 class is also very respectable considering the mild success we had last season. Give him some time and I’m sure he will get some quality players that also fit his system.

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