Michigan 67, Minnesota 64

Michigan Minnesota Basketball Celebrate. I can’t say enough about this team’s heart. Post game coming soon.

Avery Queen

so how come peedi gets no mention for b10 player of the year? the guy has some of the best moves in the conference and really has been rock solid consistent this year. what are his numbers in our wins vs. rpi top 50 teams?

god i hate baulwinkle
Jay

Happy they pulled this out, BUT Coach Beilein please cut Novaks minutes down when hes gettin abused being out of position defensively. On O..Novak coming off that curl screen refuses to put the ball on the floor and act like hes looking to go towards the basket. He has a nice J, take 2 dribbles pull up mid range or dish. Plus hes gettin abused on D being undersized
IX

Didn’t check if anyone mentioned it yet, but Florida defeated Kentucky, so Kentucky is officially dead. If Florida can lose early in the SEC tournament that’ll knock them out.
Ken in Las Vegas

This game is ridiculous. Taylor Battle for Big Ten player of the year?
MaizeNBlue2

All I have to say is hell yes! I’m having a celebratory drink right now. Go Blue baby. What a huge win. I never lost hope. Thank you LLP, and great heart by everyone. Go Blue!
http://www.umhoops.com Dylan

OK — I think that was the most ridiculous shot of the Big Ten season. Jake Kelly is out of control.
IX

Jake Kelly is unreal!
rlc

I still count two scenarios where UM could get the 8 seed in the BTT – only happens if PSU finishes ahead of Purdue, so go Iowa!
Avery Queen

right kelly
Giddings

Kelly could be scary in the first round of the BTT, but I think our guys will have a lot of motivation to get revenge for the loss a couple weeks ago.
http://www.umhoops.com Dylan

That is an absolutely devastating loss for Penn State. They are definitely back on the bubble. Jake Kelly played a hell of a game but so did Talor Battle. Triple double I believe, I think he takes the Big Ten scoring title from Manny too.
http://www.umhoops.com Dylan

Where are my tiebreaker guys at? What happens now that we are down to 3 Big Ten games left?
IX

Talor Battle is Big Ten MVP, no question about it. He is the reason PSU is going to the tournament.
Dan26

Maryland up by 1 on Virginia at half
New Mex Wyoming tied at half

Also, who do we want to win tonight UNLV @ San Diego St.?

Amazing win today!!
Redwings8831

I’m working on the tie-breakers. I’ll post them when I finish figuring out all of them.
IX

UNLV since they’re more in the tournament than SD State right now.
Giddings

Yep, definitely UNLV. They’ve got a great profile with 4 Top 25 wins.
Avery Queen

we finish first in the tiebreak between us osu minny and nu
rlc

Michigan is #7 unless Northwestern beats OSU and Wisconsin beats IU, in which case UM is #6.
Avery Queen

ill swept purdue.

wisconsin swept psu so would win that if osu loses and when wisc wins

if osu wins it goes wisco, osu, psu
Giddings

So we’re basically playing either Iowa or Indiana… which I don’t mind, since it can be tough to beat a team 3 times in a season (especially a quirky one like NW).
WHATAP

Highley agreed Kjay. Cant say enough about JB. What a job he has done in raising the level of skill in theses guys, particularily with our supporting cast around Manny, and Peedi. Did not expect the performance from LLP today. I think with more time in this program he can really round out his game and be a more conisitant threat. What a breakthrough for us. Quenched an 11 or whatever drought from the dance, and yes, with getting into the tournament, new facilities, a solid class coming in to help with our size deficiency, and lack of a scoring PG (no offense to CJ) JB has us well on our way. I think we did an amazing job of keeping our composure when we were down. We just ran our stuff, stayed patient on the offensive side, and made Minn play defense for much of the shotclock.
HUGE win for this program.
GO BLUE!!
Avery Queen

1. MSU 2. ILL 3. PU 4. WISC 5. OSU 6. PSU 7. MICH 8. MINN 9. NU 10. IOWA 11. IU if osu wins

1. MSU 2. ILL 3. PU 4. WISC 5. PSU 6. MICH 7. OSU 8. NU 9. MINN 10. IOWA 11. IU if northwestern wins

lets just assume iu loses
rlc

Here’s what I’ve got – YMMV:

#1 MSU
#2 Illinois if MSU beats PU, otherwise PU
#3 PU if MSU beats PU, otherwise lliniois
#4 UW if UW beats IU. OSU if OSU beats NU and IU beats UW. PSU if NU beats OSU and UI beats UW
#5 OSU if UW beats IU and OSU beats NW. PSU if IU beats UW or NU beats OSU, but not both. UW if NU beats OSU and IU beats UW.
#6 PSU if UW and OSU both win. UW if they lose and OSU wins. Michigan if UW wins and OSU loses. NU if OSU and UW both lose.
#7 NU if they and UW both win, otherwise Michigan.
#8 OSU if they lose and UW wins, otherwise Minnesota.
#9 OSU if they lose and UW loses. Minnesota if OSU loses and UW wins. Otherwise, NU.
#10 Iowa
#11 Indiana
Avery Queen

yeah purdue can finish 2nd with a win
Giddings

Back to our win today – looking at the box score, this win has “Beilein” written all over it. We get outrebounded by a ridiculous margin (30-13), give up tons of easy baskets down low (Iowa shoots 67% on 2-pointers), but knock down 9-22 threes and win the turnover battle 9 to 18.
http://www.bamapachyderm.com Chris in NC

Forgive the naive question as I don’t follow basketball that much. Just UM. Has the SEC fallen that far that an 8-8 Kentucky team is out or a 9-7 Florida team is fighting for its life? I thought that conference was nearly as magical in basketball as it is supposed to be in football. What a strange season. Kentucky out and the mighty Blue in. Wow.
IX

Kentucky is officially dead. Their losses are terrible, VMI and Georgia (both at home). Those are the only ones I know off the top of my head. They flat out suck!

The SEC in general is terrible this year. Only LSU and Tennesse deserve to get in. The best seed anyone in the SEC will get is a 5, 4 if their commish whines about it during the selection process (since he is the head of the committee this year).
http://www.bamapachyderm.com Chris in NC

Thanks, IX. What a strange but great season. I don’t think any of us thought NCAA’s back in November when the season was just starting. We have to be at least 1-2 years ahead of schedule.
IX

Tim Doyle was the only one who predicted it, he knows all!
Ken in Las Vegas

Not to be a Debbie Downer here, but I’m not a big fan of all the we’re a lock talk. Nobody has given us a bid yet, so let’s not create any bad karma for ourselves. I hope to god that the team isn’t as confident as we are, because they have some more games to play. That being said, I think we deserve the bid regardless of what happens. GO BLUE!!
Redwings8831

I have the list of eight possible scenarios done, but I’m not able to post it. Like I post it, but then it disappears.
Redwings8831

I’ll try posting it in parts because its really long.

There are eight scenarios with the three games left. Below are them. Michigan State is #1, Iowa is #10 and Indiana is #11 in all scenarios.

A: Wisconsin, Michigan State, Ohio State win.
B: Wisconsin, Michigan State, Northwestern win.
C: Wisconsin, Purdue, Ohio State win.
D: Wisconsin, Purdue, Northwestern win.
E: Indiana, Michigan State, Ohio State win.
F: Indiana, Michigan State, Northwestern win.
G: Indiana, Purdue, Ohio State win.
H: Indiana, Purdue, Northwestern win.

Scenario A:
2. Illinois: 11-7
3. Purdue: 11-7
4. Wisconsin: 10-8
5. Ohio State: 10-8
6. Penn State: 10-8
7. Michigan: 9-9
8. Minnesota: 9-9
9. Northwestern: 8-10

Notes: Illinois has the head to head over Purdue for #2. Wisconsin is 3-0 against the other two, Ohio State is 1-1 and Penn State is 0-3. Michigan has the head to head over Minnesota.

Scenario B:
2. Illinois: 11-7
3. Purdue: 11-7
4. Wisconsin: 10-8
5. Penn State: 10-8
6. Michigan: 9-9
7. Northwestern: 9-9
8. Ohio State: 9-9
9. Minnesota: 9-9

Notes: Illinois and Wisconsin have the tie breakers because of head to head over Purdue and Penn State respectively. For the four way tie for #6 to #9, Michigan is 4-2 vs the other three, Ohio State and Northwestern are both 3-3, and Minnesota is 2-4. Northwestern would have the tie-breaker over Ohio State because they beat Michigan State once while Ohio State did not.
Redwings8831

Scenario C:
2. Purdue: 12-6
3. Illinois: 11-7
4. Wisconsin: 10-8
5. Ohio State: 10-8
6. Penn State: 10-8
7. Michigan: 9-9
8. Minnesota: 9-9
9. Northwestern: 8-10

Notes: Wisconsin is 3-0 against the other two, Ohio State is 1-1 and Penn State is 0-3. Michigan has the head to head over Minnesota.

Scenario D:
2. Purdue: 12-5
3. Illinois: 11-7
4. Wisconsin: 10-8
5. Penn State: 10-8
6. Michigan: 9-9
7. Northwestern: 9-9
8. Ohio State: 9-9
9. Minnesota: 9-9

Notes: Wisconsin has the tie breaker because of head to head over Penn State. For the four way tie for #6 to #9, Michigan is 4-2 vs the other three, Ohio State and Northwestern are both 3-3, and Minnesota is 2-4. Northwestern would have the tie-breaker over Ohio State because they beat Michigan State once while Ohio State did not.

Scenario E:
2. Illinois: 11-7
3. Purdue: 11-7
4. Ohio State: 10-8
5. Penn State: 10-8
6. Michigan: 9-9
7. Minnesota: 9-9
8. Wisconsin: 9-9
9. Northwestern: 8-10

Notes: Illinois has the head to head tiebreaker over Purdue for #2 and Ohio State has the head to head tiebreaker over Penn State for #4. For the three way tie for #6 to #8, Michigan, Wisconsin and Minnesota are all 2-2 against each other. The next tiebreaker is record against the first place team and so on. None beat Michigan State, so it would go to the record against Illinois. All three teams were 1-1 vs Illinois, so it would go to record against Purdue. Michigan beat Purdue once and the others didn’t, so they would be #6. Head to head would then be used for Minnesota and Wisconsin, which Minnesota has.
Redwings8831

Scenario F:
2. Illinois: 11-7
3. Purdue: 11-7
4. Penn State: 10-8
5. Wisconsin: 9-9
6. Northwestern: 9-9
7. Michigan: 9-9
8. Minnesota: 9-9
9. Ohio State: 9-9

Notes: Illinois would have the head to head over Purdue for #2. For the five way tie, Wisconsin was 4-3 vs the other teams, making them the #5, while Ohio State was 3-4, putting them at #9. For the other three teams, it goes to record against the #1 team, Michigan State. Northwestern has a win, putting them at #6. Michigan has the head to head over Minnesota, putting them at #7.

Scenario G:
2. Purdue: 12-6
3. Illinois: 11-7
4. Ohio State: 10-8
5. Penn State: 10-8
6. Michigan: 9-9
7. Minnesota: 9-9
8. Wisconsin: 9-9
9. Northwestern 8-10

Notes: Ohio State has the tiebreaker because of head to head over Penn State. For the three way tie for #6 to #8, Michigan, Wisconsin and Minnesota are all 2-2 against each other. The next tiebreaker is record against the first place team and so on. None beat Michigan State, so it would go to the record against Illinois. All three teams were 1-1 vs Illinois, so it would go to record against Purdue. Michigan beat Purdue once and the others didn’t, so they would be #6. Head to head would then be used for Minnesota and Wisconsin, which Minnesota has.

Scenario H:
2. Purdue: 12-6
3. Illinois: 11-7
4. Penn State: 10-8
5. Wisconsin: 9-9
6. Northwestern: 9-9
7. Michigan: 9-9
8. Minnesota: 9-9
9. Ohio State: 9-9

Notes: For the five way tie, Wisconsin was 4-3 vs the other teams, making them the #5, while Ohio State was 3-4, putting them at #9. For the other three teams, it goes to record against the #1 team, Michigan State. Northwestern has a win, putting them at #6. Michigan has the head to head over Minnesota, putting them at #7.

If any of these are wrong please let me know. Thanks. All of the scenarios are listed in the first post.
http://www.umhoops.com Dylan

Whoa, redwings, good stuff.
IX

Virginia 68, Maryland 63 FINAL!!!
http://www.bamapachyderm.com Chris in NC

Ken, you’re not being Eeyore at all. We do need to be realistic. We lose to Iowa or Indiana Thursday and we may drop out. We do need to win that first game if it is them. Lose to any of the others and we should be ok.

But I won’t begrudge myself the partying today. It was a huge win and for those people who bashed Beilein the whole game, when was Amaker’s last big win? If I remember that bad dream, we usually came into the B10 season 11-2 or something like that and cratered the last 10 games in a row to get lucky to get the NIT. I don’t remember a season where Amaker’s team had to win 2 of 3 against 3 real tough opponents and did it. Just sayin’.
http://www.bamapachyderm.com Chris in NC

Wow IX, that Michigan basketball hating god must have taken a long vacation to Bermuda. It’s strange how nearly everything that had to go Michigan’s way this last week did.
http://www.bamapachyderm.com Chris in NC

I guess to sum up the week, we’ll steal a line from Milhouse on the Simpsons “Hoo boy! Everything’s coming up Michigan!!!”
IX

yup!
Stevo

Go blue! Huge win… Wit psu losing r they still in? Some people think they’re out. I still think they’re in tho…
Stevo

Jeez. Do u see the creighton score? They’re are getting run out of the gym by Illinois state. That can’t be good.
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rlc

Great job, Redwings – I screwed up the Wisconsin 9-9 tiebreakers.

So, to correct my post above:

#6 PSU if UW and OSU both win. NU if OSU and UW both lose. Otherwise, Michigan.
#7 UW if they lose and NU wins. NU if they win and UW wins. Otherwise, Michigan.
jmblue

redwings – awesome work there. Really interesting.