Scouting Matt Vogrich: Lake Forest vs Barrington

Dylan Burkhardt

Lake Forest took on Barrington High School in the opening round of the IHSA regionals. Michigan commitment Matt Vogrich scored 19 points in the easy win over Barrington. One of our commenters, MaizeNBlue2, made it to the game and provided this scouting report. Barrington was not the greatest competition (they are 7-21 on the year) and it seems to me like Lake Forest might have fallen asleep at the wheel a little bit before pulling away in the second half.

19 Total Points (17 in the first half)
8/12 FG (2-4 3pt)
1/1 Free Throws
6 Rebounds, 3 Assists, 1 Block, 1 Turnover

Matt scored all but two of his points in the first half.  He had all 9 of his team’s points in the first quarter, then added 8 more in the second.  The game was tied 26 all at the half.  It seemed like Barrington was the underdog in the game, but this is my first ever Illinois High School Basketball game, so I don’t know.  Lake Forest didn’t look like they were working all that hard on defense, which allowed Barrington to get open looks from behind the arc that they knocked down.

The second half was a different matter.  Vogrich and his teammates turned it up a notch defensively in the second half.  The got out on the break early and often and blew it open.  Final score was 67-46 Lake Forest.  Vogrich didn’t score much, but he cleaned up on the boards (5 in the second half), got two of his three assists, and deflected several passes that led to steals.

He did a nice job of filling the lanes on the break and when he was the outlet man, he did a nice job of keeping his head up and finding the open man.  In the half court set, he did a nice job of recognizing when the extra pass was there.  And there was one really nice play that he made when Barrington was in desperation mode.  They were in a 1-3-1 half court trap and Vogrich was bringing the ball into the frontcourt.  He recognized the trap was coming and threw a laser into the post that led to an uncontested layup.  He was able to take a couple of bigger guys off the dribble, but I don’t think he’s going to be able to create his own shot effectively at the next level.

He does have a tendency to stand straight up on defense, and there were a couple of times where he got caught looking at the ball and lost his man.  He did seem to show some leadership after halftime when the team needed it, and did all the little things necessary to get the win.

Overall, he seems to have a very good stroke and the mechanics look good, but I can’t attest to his range.  (He did hit one from about 2 feet behind the line, but that was it).  I’m afraid that Beilein is going to have a bit of work to do with him defensively though.  The other concern I have is his build.  He doesn’t have much muscle definition at all.  He still looks like he could be a freshman or sophomore, and not a senior.  I know this may not mean much, but I’m concerned about whether he can take the physicality of the Big Ten.

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  • Aaron

    LF now plays against my alma mater, Stevenson High School, in the next game on Friday. Vogrich had solid games against them, and shouldn’t be much of a problem. Stevenson only gets one day off after a triple overtime game against crosstown school (I don’t want to say rival) Buffalo Grove.

  • Jimmy

    Kevin Coble and his teammates told me not to worry about his build.


    Maizenblue, I also noticed that MV was a bit frail. I was able to watch a game of his on TV a while back and thought to myself he is going to have to hit it hard with the S &C coach when he gets into town. His physical makeup will need to catchup with his shooting ability. However I don’t think JB brought him in here to replace Manny or anything, but I think more for defensive purposes Matt will need to strengthen his body.

  • El Capitan

    Great scouting report! If it didn’t say who wrote the report at the top, I would’ve definitely believed it to be from a college scout. Maizenblue2, you must have some extensive coaching/playing experience…

    Regarding the contents of the report, it appears you caught Vogrich in one of those few games where he doesn’t put up gaudy numbers. I also thought he was a big wider, but I suppose he’s just as frail as every other Michigan swingman (ha except Anthony Wright… he could stand to lose a few pounds). And is he really 6’3″?

  • MaizeNBlue2

    Haha, not exactly Capitan, but thanks for the compliment. I played through my 8th grade year. I quit as a freshman, then tried out as a junior, got cut, but kept on as a manager, then got cut again as a senior.

    I play pickup ball quite a bit, and have never really coached. I helped out with some of my brother’s elementary school teams, but that was it. I do, however, watch a ton of basketball and like to think I’m fairly knowledgeable.

    This is the first time I’ve ever actually scouted anyone before, so I don’t know how accurate I’ll be with my predictions, but it was fun to get out and watch a game while on business.

    He definitely kept his team in it in the first half, when it looked like everyone else was sleepwalking. He did all the little things after halftime that helped his team pull away.

    His build concerns me. Even Stu Douglass looks like an athlete to me. Granted this is after him going the the strength program for almost a year, but he just looks very slight in his build.

    As far as his height, I’d say he’s somewhere between 6’2″ & 6’4″. I never got a clean look at him when I was at the same level, so it was kind of hard to tell.

    Glad you guys enjoyed it. If you have any questions, let me know. I’ll do my best to answer them.

  • El Capitan

    Having been an intense basketball player for the better part of 15 years (I’m just an undergrad at U-M now) I can appreciate somebody who knows their basketball. It’s interesting to see a regular person’s account of Vogrich’s game, but I’m also interested to see what the hell is up with McLimans. He seems like such a mystery to me, with no photos or real consistent stats up on any of the major scout websites…

  • Worcester lost in their playoffs so their season is over. McLimans plays with a lot of good players but I still think his season is a bit disappointing. That being said, Blake has some tools that I think Beilein just salivates over. He plans to get to campus ASAP this summer and I’m sure he will be putting the work in all summer long.

  • John

    I have seen him play in person several times. For comparison sake I saw his early season match-up against Ben Brust of Mundelein High School. Ben was much quicker on the court, getting his shot off and a greater vertical. Ben broke his foot and is out for the season as a junior.
    Matt is 6′ 3″ plus maybe 6′ 4″. Got a moop of curly hair do hard to tell precisely. I stood almost eye to eye with him off the side of the court and I am 6′ 2 1/2″. He is a savy player with soft hands, but has very little upper body strength to my eye. He had the ball ripped out of his hands against MHS by smaller players. I too agree with a previous post, I think he will – as he is built right now – have a very tough time in the B10 physically.

    Good court vision and makes some sharp passes. Not quick off the shot against quick players. Good stroke but a bit slow, like a number of UM current perimeter players. I have seen him hit some in the 22-33 foot range. He will have trouble against tall guards or front line players with his shot. He has blown-up a few times but against slower, “fair-shaded” players.

    He plays defense back on his heels trying to use his long arms to deflect passes. Like most high school kids, they tend to reach first rather than move their feet first on D.

    He seems to be a great kid but I don’t seen him as an upgrade over either of our Indiana freshmen; Stu and Zach, who to my eye are much stronger, a bit taller, tougher (Zach) and have greater shooting range.

    I think a guy his size who is much quicker who could create his own shots off the dribble against the 1 guard would have been a better choice. His recruitment is a puzzle to me. I do hope he proves me wrong and does well.

  • Well Darius is the guy who can create shots. Vogrich also has had some huge games against Brandon Paul who is headed to Illinois.

    Also I have a hard time ripping anyone in high school because of their defense because that is something that will always come with time.

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