Comments on: Game 11: Florida Gulf Coast at Michigan Post Game http://www.umhoops.com/2008/12/22/game-11-florida-gulf-coast-at-michigan-post-game/ An Unofficial University of Michigan Basketball Blog Sat, 20 Mar 2010 04:58:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Ky Fox http://www.umhoops.com/2008/12/22/game-11-florida-gulf-coast-at-michigan-post-game/comment-page-2/#comment-16936 Ky Fox Wed, 24 Dec 2008 03:46:14 +0000 http://www.umhoops.com/?p=882#comment-16936 Looking at the Big 11 I am not quite sure what to think. I know its going to be a knock down, drag out fight to the finish. The teams I believe we can beat twice are Iowa, Northwestern, and believe it or not I think we can double dip on Wisky. I watched Wisky play a couple of times and they look REALLY slow. I could be wrong but there could be 6 wins right there. Im not quite sure what to think about Minnetonka..They havent played anyone up to Louisville, but I think Louisville is a bit overrated, probably much more so even than UCLA. I believe we will be very tough at Crisler, and fans will continue to fill it up. Im still holding true to my prediction of our 3rd loss not coming until Jan 14th...at which point we will be riding a 9 game winning streak...and will have an overall record of 14-3. I just love the thought of us most likely being in every game we play, we wont win them all but we will be in it. If Shepherd, Gibby, and Wright can step it up we will do well. Looking at the Big 11 I am not quite sure what to think. I know its going to be a knock down, drag out fight to the finish. The teams I believe we can beat twice are Iowa, Northwestern, and believe it or not I think we can double dip on Wisky. I watched Wisky play a couple of times and they look REALLY slow. I could be wrong but there could be 6 wins right there. Im not quite sure what to think about Minnetonka..They havent played anyone up to Louisville, but I think Louisville is a bit overrated, probably much more so even than UCLA. I believe we will be very tough at Crisler, and fans will continue to fill it up. Im still holding true to my prediction of our 3rd loss not coming until Jan 14th…at which point we will be riding a 9 game winning streak…and will have an overall record of 14-3. I just love the thought of us most likely being in every game we play, we wont win them all but we will be in it. If Shepherd, Gibby, and Wright can step it up we will do well.

]]> By: Ky Fox http://www.umhoops.com/2008/12/22/game-11-florida-gulf-coast-at-michigan-post-game/comment-page-2/#comment-16933 Ky Fox Wed, 24 Dec 2008 03:26:54 +0000 http://www.umhoops.com/?p=882#comment-16933 I like all of the Udoh talk. While I agree with Ken in Vegas that Udoh's presence would have been mostly negative, and you could even tell last year that his body language on the court was of a negative tone, it doesnt take away the fact that we DESPERATELY need a versatile big to play along side Peedi. JoMo cant get hear soon enough and thats the bottom line! I also believe that team chemistry is greatly overlooked...not just on a Beilein team but in basketball in gerneral. JB stresses a family atmosphere concerning his teams...if a player isnt going to have fun, fly around the court, and have his teammates back then what good is he? He isnt. I know Gibson is weak and couldnt punch his way out of a wet paper bag, but Im not sure what else JB has in mind. Does he go with a guy like Riley?? maybe Riley thinks he is better than he really is...who knows. All I know is looking to the future JB did not anticipate Cronin gimpin around this year, so I think our best bet is to let this class of 09 come in and then evaluate everything. Barring any departures for the big league we will be loaded next year. Harris Peedi-6'8" Grady Morris Novak Vogrich Cronin-7'0" Morgan-6'9" Douglas Gibson-6'10" Mclimans-6'10" LLP All of theses guys I see playing in the rotation next year. But with all this being said I am a little concerned with replacing Manny, and Peedi...who are two guys that JB didnt fully recruit. My hopes is that kids like Zeigler, Regan, Hardaway, Moses Morgan, or even Alex Gauna take a close look into how much better JB can make them and grabs 2 or 3 of those guys. We are going to need some athletic ability injected here in the next few years. I am confident JB will realize the need for balance, and he will go out and get some guys that have some of the abilities Manny, and Peedi have. I think by next year we will have good enough play, and depth coming out of the frontcourt to be a very dangerous team. We have a ton of skilled guys, and next year we will morph that skill with size, rebounding and a physical presence we dont have this year...WOW, I think by then the sleeping giant will have not only awoken but will have made his way to the breakfast table and will be eating teams for breakfast. I like all of the Udoh talk. While I agree with Ken in Vegas that Udoh’s presence would have been mostly negative, and you could even tell last year that his body language on the court was of a negative tone, it doesnt take away the fact that we DESPERATELY need a versatile big to play along side Peedi. JoMo cant get hear soon enough and thats the bottom line! I also believe that team chemistry is greatly overlooked…not just on a Beilein team but in basketball in gerneral. JB stresses a family atmosphere concerning his teams…if a player isnt going to have fun, fly around the court, and have his teammates back then what good is he? He isnt. I know Gibson is weak and couldnt punch his way out of a wet paper bag, but Im not sure what else JB has in mind. Does he go with a guy like Riley?? maybe Riley thinks he is better than he really is…who knows. All I know is looking to the future JB did not anticipate Cronin gimpin around this year, so I think our best bet is to let this class of 09 come in and then evaluate everything. Barring any departures for the big league we will be loaded next year.

Harris
Peedi-6′8″
Grady
Morris
Novak
Vogrich
Cronin-7′0″
Morgan-6′9″
Douglas
Gibson-6′10″
Mclimans-6′10″
LLP

All of theses guys I see playing in the rotation next year. But with all this being said I am a little concerned with replacing Manny, and Peedi…who are two guys that JB didnt fully recruit. My hopes is that kids like Zeigler, Regan, Hardaway, Moses Morgan, or even Alex Gauna take a close look into how much better JB can make them and grabs 2 or 3 of those guys. We are going to need some athletic ability injected here in the next few years. I am confident JB will realize the need for balance, and he will go out and get some guys that have some of the abilities Manny, and Peedi have. I think by next year we will have good enough play, and depth coming out of the frontcourt to be a very dangerous team. We have a ton of skilled guys, and next year we will morph that skill with size, rebounding and a physical presence we dont have this year…WOW, I think by then the sleeping giant will have not only awoken but will have made his way to the breakfast table and will be eating teams for breakfast.

]]> By: Giddings http://www.umhoops.com/2008/12/22/game-11-florida-gulf-coast-at-michigan-post-game/comment-page-2/#comment-16930 Giddings Wed, 24 Dec 2008 02:32:36 +0000 http://www.umhoops.com/?p=882#comment-16930 I'm still not sure what to think about Wisconsin... looking forward to this game against Texas, should give us a good indication of where they are this year. So far they've been unimpressive, but with Bo Ryan's coaching and their level of play at the Kohl Center, you can pretty much pencil them in for the Big Ten top 5 no matter what. I’m still not sure what to think about Wisconsin… looking forward to this game against Texas, should give us a good indication of where they are this year. So far they’ve been unimpressive, but with Bo Ryan’s coaching and their level of play at the Kohl Center, you can pretty much pencil them in for the Big Ten top 5 no matter what.

]]> By: JimC http://www.umhoops.com/2008/12/22/game-11-florida-gulf-coast-at-michigan-post-game/comment-page-2/#comment-16924 JimC Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:56:27 +0000 http://www.umhoops.com/?p=882#comment-16924 sorry, meant "IL, MN & MI battling for 5-7" sorry, meant “IL, MN & MI battling for 5-7″

]]> By: JimC http://www.umhoops.com/2008/12/22/game-11-florida-gulf-coast-at-michigan-post-game/comment-page-2/#comment-16923 JimC Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:54:40 +0000 http://www.umhoops.com/?p=882#comment-16923 I'm interested to know what you all think about where we'll end up in the B10. To me it looks LOADED...look at what IL is doing to MO tonight, in an away game! I'm still guessing there are maybe up to 6 teams--maybe--ahead of us. Yikes! But PU,WI,MSU & OSU look like the top 4, then IL, MN & MN battling for 5-7. Maybe I'm underestimating here. But we better win all the home games!!! I’m interested to know what you all think about where we’ll end up in the B10.
To me it looks LOADED…look at what IL is doing to MO tonight, in an away game!
I’m still guessing there are maybe up to 6 teams–maybe–ahead of us. Yikes! But PU,WI,MSU & OSU look like the top 4, then IL, MN & MN battling for 5-7.
Maybe I’m underestimating here. But we better win all the home games!!!

]]> By: Drew http://www.umhoops.com/2008/12/22/game-11-florida-gulf-coast-at-michigan-post-game/comment-page-2/#comment-16921 Drew Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:54:27 +0000 http://www.umhoops.com/?p=882#comment-16921 To be honest, I wasn't that big on Ekpe when he was here. It's just that I saw a lot more potential in him, and I think those offensive numbers would have greatly improved this year with Sims being more of a threat down low, while I don't see Gibson taking any advantage of having a great post player beside him. Clearly, Ekpe had all the wrong influences with the AAU coach and such, but talent-wise, it'd be nice to have him around I believe. I also agree a lot of his blocks came weak-side, but isn't that the case with many shot blockers? I don't see Gibson getting hardly any blocks, although I do recall seeing one specifically from the FGCU game against a rather small guard. Say they work out some off-court issues, maybe not everything... Ekpe's contributions > Gibson's? I almost have to believe so. I haven't seen Gibson do anything that stuck with me this year besides a nice finish on a reverse-ish lay up in the Duke game. To be honest, I wasn’t that big on Ekpe when he was here. It’s just that I saw a lot more potential in him, and I think those offensive numbers would have greatly improved this year with Sims being more of a threat down low, while I don’t see Gibson taking any advantage of having a great post player beside him. Clearly, Ekpe had all the wrong influences with the AAU coach and such, but talent-wise, it’d be nice to have him around I believe. I also agree a lot of his blocks came weak-side, but isn’t that the case with many shot blockers? I don’t see Gibson getting hardly any blocks, although I do recall seeing one specifically from the FGCU game against a rather small guard. Say they work out some off-court issues, maybe not everything… Ekpe’s contributions > Gibson’s? I almost have to believe so. I haven’t seen Gibson do anything that stuck with me this year besides a nice finish on a reverse-ish lay up in the Duke game.

]]> By: jmblue http://www.umhoops.com/2008/12/22/game-11-florida-gulf-coast-at-michigan-post-game/comment-page-2/#comment-16915 jmblue Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:26:03 +0000 http://www.umhoops.com/?p=882#comment-16915 Drew, I wouldn't discount the notion that Udoh's departure may have helped team chemistry. Udoh's AAU coach was filling his head with NBA visions and was trashing Beilein's system. That had the potential to be a real distraction to the team. Now, if we could have had a great shotblocker *without* a deranged AAU hanger-on, then sure, he'd be welcome. Drew, I wouldn’t discount the notion that Udoh’s departure may have helped team chemistry. Udoh’s AAU coach was filling his head with NBA visions and was trashing Beilein’s system. That had the potential to be a real distraction to the team. Now, if we could have had a great shotblocker *without* a deranged AAU hanger-on, then sure, he’d be welcome.

]]> By: Giddings http://www.umhoops.com/2008/12/22/game-11-florida-gulf-coast-at-michigan-post-game/comment-page-2/#comment-16912 Giddings Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:12:57 +0000 http://www.umhoops.com/?p=882#comment-16912 Kevin - the crowd reaction to Reed was positive at first (and for most of the game). When he hit his threes, there were a few pockets of cheers here and there. However, the cheers turned to boos in the last 15 seconds, when he kept fouling and trying to tie up the ball even though he was down by 17 points. Kevin – the crowd reaction to Reed was positive at first (and for most of the game). When he hit his threes, there were a few pockets of cheers here and there. However, the cheers turned to boos in the last 15 seconds, when he kept fouling and trying to tie up the ball even though he was down by 17 points.

]]> By: Ken in Vegas http://www.umhoops.com/2008/12/22/game-11-florida-gulf-coast-at-michigan-post-game/comment-page-2/#comment-16905 Ken in Vegas Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:52:41 +0000 http://www.umhoops.com/?p=882#comment-16905 Wow, that's a good statistical argument, Go Blue. That makes me feel even better about his loss. Gibson is better at shooting the three and hitting free throws too. Wow, that’s a good statistical argument, Go Blue. That makes me feel even better about his loss. Gibson is better at shooting the three and hitting free throws too.

]]> By: Go Blue http://www.umhoops.com/2008/12/22/game-11-florida-gulf-coast-at-michigan-post-game/comment-page-2/#comment-16902 Go Blue Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:27:38 +0000 http://www.umhoops.com/?p=882#comment-16902 sorry the links not working but if you care to, mgoblue has statistical archives. sorry the links not working but if you care to, mgoblue has statistical archives.

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