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	<title>Comments on: Nate Lubick to Georgetown&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: mfaninstlouis</title>
		<link>http://www.umhoops.com/2008/10/07/nate-lubick-to-georgetown/comment-page-1/#comment-7843</link>
		<dc:creator>mfaninstlouis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a late post to a blog from a while back.  I think FischerForever is probably realizing he was totally wrong about Belein.  Izzo is a good coach, but his team is lacking discipline this year so far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a late post to a blog from a while back.  I think FischerForever is probably realizing he was totally wrong about Belein.  Izzo is a good coach, but his team is lacking discipline this year so far.</p>
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		<title>By: Hoya dropping by</title>
		<link>http://www.umhoops.com/2008/10/07/nate-lubick-to-georgetown/comment-page-1/#comment-7842</link>
		<dc:creator>Hoya dropping by</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey!

You guys do the &#039;Rape of the Sabine Women,&#039; in Morgantown, WVA and want instant grat.

Did we get that from JTII?

Well, yes.

BUT... give your stolen goods a chance to cool down. They&#039;re both fine coaches.

BTW, yes, GU does play football ... sort of. We are, and will be, last in the Patriot League, the league organized so that the Ivy League could schedule out of conference games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey!</p>
<p>You guys do the &#8216;Rape of the Sabine Women,&#8217; in Morgantown, WVA and want instant grat.</p>
<p>Did we get that from JTII?</p>
<p>Well, yes.</p>
<p>BUT&#8230; give your stolen goods a chance to cool down. They&#8217;re both fine coaches.</p>
<p>BTW, yes, GU does play football &#8230; sort of. We are, and will be, last in the Patriot League, the league organized so that the Ivy League could schedule out of conference games.</p>
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		<title>By: old fan</title>
		<link>http://www.umhoops.com/2008/10/07/nate-lubick-to-georgetown/comment-page-1/#comment-7841</link>
		<dc:creator>old fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 03:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can someone actually have the name Fisher Forever and be a real fan?   How did we get in this mess in the first place and who was in charge when it happened?

I long for the old days to but that doesn&#039;t mean that we turn a blind eye to what happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone actually have the name Fisher Forever and be a real fan?   How did we get in this mess in the first place and who was in charge when it happened?</p>
<p>I long for the old days to but that doesn&#8217;t mean that we turn a blind eye to what happened.</p>
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		<title>By: bill</title>
		<link>http://www.umhoops.com/2008/10/07/nate-lubick-to-georgetown/comment-page-1/#comment-7840</link>
		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 22:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy over reaction Batman!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy over reaction Batman!</p>
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		<title>By: Bluebufoon</title>
		<link>http://www.umhoops.com/2008/10/07/nate-lubick-to-georgetown/comment-page-1/#comment-7839</link>
		<dc:creator>Bluebufoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 22:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is silly if U-M lands a solid front-court player with one of its remaining scholarships for next season, the addition of two guards (Darius Morris and Matt Vogrich) that will be contributors at the very least along, with another solid big man (Jordan Morgan) to provide depth in the paint-- Michigan should continue to improve its depth and be solidly back in the NCAA Tourney and toward the front half of the conference standings behind Manny Harris and Deshawn Sims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is silly if U-M lands a solid front-court player with one of its remaining scholarships for next season, the addition of two guards (Darius Morris and Matt Vogrich) that will be contributors at the very least along, with another solid big man (Jordan Morgan) to provide depth in the paint&#8211; Michigan should continue to improve its depth and be solidly back in the NCAA Tourney and toward the front half of the conference standings behind Manny Harris and Deshawn Sims.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://www.umhoops.com/2008/10/07/nate-lubick-to-georgetown/comment-page-1/#comment-7838</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 18:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darius Morris, Jordan Morgan, and Matt Vogrich are just as good as a trio as the 3 guys that Minnesota has in the 2009 class.  Tubby was just lucky to happen to have 2 highly rated recruits in the state of Minnesota this year.  And regardless, Amaker wasn&#039;t a bad recruiter but we didn&#039;t win games.  Unless you are getting the cream of the crop players, coaching is a huge part of college basketball and I would take John Beilein over anyone in the Big Ten in the pure coaching sense besides Izzo, Ryan and maybe Matta.  Tubby Smith got ran out of town at one of the premiere basketball programs in the country so he clearly wasn&#039;t an amazing coach for all the talent he was getting.

Michigan only won 10 games last year because we did not have the shooters to excel in Beilein&#039;s system.  Just like Rich Rod on the football side, JB needs the right players in order for the system to work.  Ya can&#039;t give someone lemons and tell them to make orange juice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darius Morris, Jordan Morgan, and Matt Vogrich are just as good as a trio as the 3 guys that Minnesota has in the 2009 class.  Tubby was just lucky to happen to have 2 highly rated recruits in the state of Minnesota this year.  And regardless, Amaker wasn&#8217;t a bad recruiter but we didn&#8217;t win games.  Unless you are getting the cream of the crop players, coaching is a huge part of college basketball and I would take John Beilein over anyone in the Big Ten in the pure coaching sense besides Izzo, Ryan and maybe Matta.  Tubby Smith got ran out of town at one of the premiere basketball programs in the country so he clearly wasn&#8217;t an amazing coach for all the talent he was getting.</p>
<p>Michigan only won 10 games last year because we did not have the shooters to excel in Beilein&#8217;s system.  Just like Rich Rod on the football side, JB needs the right players in order for the system to work.  Ya can&#8217;t give someone lemons and tell them to make orange juice.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 16:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are kidding yourself about where this program is.  You seem to think Michigan is still a real contender on the national scene.  You seem to think Michigan still has the clout of the Fab 5 days.  You seem to believe that Michigan basketball is regarded nationally as one of the top 20 programs.  You seem to believe that a good coach can easily recruit people to come play at a sub-par program with sub-par facilities.  You are the only one kidding yourself because you seem to think Michigan is on MSU&#039;s level and should be able to get 4 and 5 star guys at the snap of our fingers.  You must have a great memory because you seem to have forgotten the last 11 years away from an NCAA tournament.  That should show enough that Michigan is not an elite program.  An elite program can stay out of the tourney for a few years but not 11.

Now that&#039;s not saying Michigan can&#039;t get back to what they were during the Fab 5 days, but they will need to start winning and making tournaments BEFORE they start having the capabilities of recruiting solely 4 and 5 star guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are kidding yourself about where this program is.  You seem to think Michigan is still a real contender on the national scene.  You seem to think Michigan still has the clout of the Fab 5 days.  You seem to believe that Michigan basketball is regarded nationally as one of the top 20 programs.  You seem to believe that a good coach can easily recruit people to come play at a sub-par program with sub-par facilities.  You are the only one kidding yourself because you seem to think Michigan is on MSU&#8217;s level and should be able to get 4 and 5 star guys at the snap of our fingers.  You must have a great memory because you seem to have forgotten the last 11 years away from an NCAA tournament.  That should show enough that Michigan is not an elite program.  An elite program can stay out of the tourney for a few years but not 11.</p>
<p>Now that&#8217;s not saying Michigan can&#8217;t get back to what they were during the Fab 5 days, but they will need to start winning and making tournaments BEFORE they start having the capabilities of recruiting solely 4 and 5 star guys.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benjamin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 16:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rome wasn&#039;t built in a day. Beilein can&#039;t repair the damage that Fisher (and Ellerbe and to a degree Amaker) caused in one season or with one recruit.

Are we disappointed that Nate didn&#039;t go blue- yes, of course- this was a big deal.  But, its not the end of the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rome wasn&#8217;t built in a day. Beilein can&#8217;t repair the damage that Fisher (and Ellerbe and to a degree Amaker) caused in one season or with one recruit.</p>
<p>Are we disappointed that Nate didn&#8217;t go blue- yes, of course- this was a big deal.  But, its not the end of the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Steele</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 15:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beilein was never known for being a big-time recruiter.  I just checked out the rivals rankings for WVU&#039;s recruits going back to &#039;02  when he took over and JB did not bring in a single 4 or 5-star player.  Pittsnogle (sp?)- arguably his best player- was a three star guy and no one was ranked any higher.  That means that Darius Morris is the highest ranked recruit JB has EVER landed.  JB&#039;s strength is developing and maximizing the talent he brings in.  This obviously worked out pretty well for him at WVU.  So everyone needs to calm the f down and let Beilein do what he does best.  The Michigan program is in good hands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beilein was never known for being a big-time recruiter.  I just checked out the rivals rankings for WVU&#8217;s recruits going back to &#8217;02  when he took over and JB did not bring in a single 4 or 5-star player.  Pittsnogle (sp?)- arguably his best player- was a three star guy and no one was ranked any higher.  That means that Darius Morris is the highest ranked recruit JB has EVER landed.  JB&#8217;s strength is developing and maximizing the talent he brings in.  This obviously worked out pretty well for him at WVU.  So everyone needs to calm the f down and let Beilein do what he does best.  The Michigan program is in good hands.</p>
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		<title>By: another josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>another josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 14:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fisher Forever, if you are &quot;old enough to remember when we had that kind of clout,&quot; then you are &quot;old enough to remember,&quot; that Coach Fisher is a major reason we are in this position. You cannot expect JB to turn around a program like this after only having 1 recruiting class that is entirely his. It is similar to Michigan football&#039;s situation right now: the players who are here have to learn a new system which means they are kind of like freshmen all over again, and the players whose skill sets fit the scheme have to be recruited. Take away Michigan football&#039;s recruiting clout and current abundance of high level athletes on the roster and you have JB&#039;s situation. Give it time and stop posting without reading up and knowing what you are talking about. It&#039;s embarrassing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fisher Forever, if you are &#8220;old enough to remember when we had that kind of clout,&#8221; then you are &#8220;old enough to remember,&#8221; that Coach Fisher is a major reason we are in this position. You cannot expect JB to turn around a program like this after only having 1 recruiting class that is entirely his. It is similar to Michigan football&#8217;s situation right now: the players who are here have to learn a new system which means they are kind of like freshmen all over again, and the players whose skill sets fit the scheme have to be recruited. Take away Michigan football&#8217;s recruiting clout and current abundance of high level athletes on the roster and you have JB&#8217;s situation. Give it time and stop posting without reading up and knowing what you are talking about. It&#8217;s embarrassing.</p>
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