Comments on: Thursday Links & Notes http://www.umhoops.com/2008/10/02/thursday-links-notes-2/ Michigan Basketball News, Recruiting, and Analysis Fri, 24 Jun 2011 03:53:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Weekend Visitors: Vogrich & Byrd | UM Hoops.com http://www.umhoops.com/2008/10/02/thursday-links-notes-2/comment-page-1/#comment-7779 Weekend Visitors: Vogrich & Byrd | UM Hoops.com Fri, 03 Oct 2008 17:22:36 +0000 http://www.umhoops.com/?p=444#comment-7779 [...] was previously reported, Matt Vogrich will be on campus this weekend. Rivals is also reporting that 2010 Indiana [...] [...] was previously reported, Matt Vogrich will be on campus this weekend. Rivals is also reporting that 2010 Indiana [...]

]]> By: Brick http://www.umhoops.com/2008/10/02/thursday-links-notes-2/comment-page-1/#comment-7778 Brick Thu, 02 Oct 2008 22:16:14 +0000 http://www.umhoops.com/?p=444#comment-7778 Vogrich is the '09 I'm most excited about also but I think Barrett would be a decent get just for depth purposes. We really need some size and Barrett sounds like he could be a backup at SF or PF. I would prefer not having to rely on Freshman too much to step in and contribute so it would be nice to have an '09 big that could learn for a year before we need minutes when Gibson and Sims graduate. Vogrich is the ’09 I’m most excited about also but I think Barrett would be a decent get just for depth purposes. We really need some size and Barrett sounds like he could be a backup at SF or PF.

I would prefer not having to rely on Freshman too much to step in and contribute so it would be nice to have an ’09 big that could learn for a year before we need minutes when Gibson and Sims graduate.

]]> By: Tim http://www.umhoops.com/2008/10/02/thursday-links-notes-2/comment-page-1/#comment-7777 Tim Thu, 02 Oct 2008 21:54:41 +0000 http://www.umhoops.com/?p=444#comment-7777 Dylan, not sure if you saw it, but Tuesday's WTKA recruiting insider was almost entirely dedicated to Lubick. http://wtka.com/index.php?fuseaction=home.podcasts_sel&id=490 Dylan, not sure if you saw it, but Tuesday’s WTKA recruiting insider was almost entirely dedicated to Lubick.

http://wtka.com/index.php?fuseaction=home.podcasts_sel&id=490

]]> By: Wolverine http://www.umhoops.com/2008/10/02/thursday-links-notes-2/comment-page-1/#comment-7776 Wolverine Thu, 02 Oct 2008 21:51:43 +0000 http://www.umhoops.com/?p=444#comment-7776 Oh, one thing that I forgot to mention is that I don't have PREMIUM (meaning I can't read or post post's on Michigan.Rivals.com or on Michigan.Scout.com) so if you post on those two aforementioned sites please do so on the sites' free boards. THANKS AGAIN!!!! --WOLVERINE Oh, one thing that I forgot to mention is that I don’t have PREMIUM (meaning I can’t read or post post’s on Michigan.Rivals.com or on Michigan.Scout.com) so if you post on those two aforementioned sites please do so on the sites’ free boards. THANKS AGAIN!!!!

–WOLVERINE

]]> By: Wolverine http://www.umhoops.com/2008/10/02/thursday-links-notes-2/comment-page-1/#comment-7775 Wolverine Thu, 02 Oct 2008 21:44:28 +0000 http://www.umhoops.com/?p=444#comment-7775 FINALLY SOMEONE WHO "GETS IT"!!!! -- regarding ****Rickey Green****!!!! I don't agree with some aspects of his article (i.e. the "Recruiting Wars" article [can we say Dan Wetzel article {when he was at cbs.sportsline.com, ANYONE???!!!! ABOUT HOW this wasn't limited to Michigan: 7 Midwestern schools were involved -- among the more significant are Michigan, Michigan State, and Dayton} and Steve Fisher who 4-5 years ago was on a Michigan Sports Talk Radio show and he saying the Ed Martin was providing cash to MSU Basketball players in the early 1990's as well {hint: altruism WASN'T THE ONLY REASON that Steve Smith gave back to his Alma Mater -- i.e., he went to the John Wooden/Big Tobacco/Lloyd Carr--school of "how to use P.R. propoganda to make people forget about evil/shady things/indescretions that one has did or committed ;.))!!!! BTW, last time I checked Steve Smith, among others, was from Detroit, M.I.} and my favorite . . . Mateen Cleaves took money from Ed Martin {a former 'Core MaizeRager who was the second-most recent Superfan and who was in the Division of Kinesiology verifies this/can confirm this in terms of providing and knowing of the logistical, technical, "dirty"/"gory" details that document this!!!!} There is a reason why MSU didn't get busted and/or why the NCAA {Governing Body} looked the other way -- hint: its the same reason why the NCAA looked the other during the early 1970's when John Wooden/UCLA cheated {i.e. unlike our situation there actually was literally and specifically a Booster that ACTUALLY WAS STEERING PLAYERS TO COMMIT TO AND COME TO UCLA -- Ed Martin, contrary to popular belief was actually not a booster because he was directing or steering players to various multiple schools == in other words he could care less were a prospect went to school as long as that prospect payed him back in collateral -- implicitely meaning that the prospect made it "big time" to the NBA!!!!}!!!!]) but he is 110% spot on in his observation/analysis in regards to when Rickey Green played @Michigan (he played two seasons [i.e. he was a Junior College Transfer, which yours truly was also] from 1975-1977] under legendary UofM Men's Basketball Head Coach [who is EXTREMELY UNDERRATED, IN MY BOOK -- BUT THAT IS ANOTHER SUBJECT FOR ANOTHER TIME!!!!] Johnny Orr [1968-1980: 12 Seasons]). Here is the specific quote from that article that mentions Rickey Green: ****The best basketball eras at both Michigan and Michigan State centered on homegrown players, with some particular exceptions for Michigan: Cazzie Russell in 1965, ^Rickey Green^ and John Robinson in 1976, and Juwan Howard in 1992 and 1993, all played in national championship games after being recruited out of Chicago.**** Also, on another note, as a request/favor (IT WOULD MEAN EXTREMELY A LOT TO ME!!!!) PLEASE, PLEASE . . . ****SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT RICKEY GREEN -- IN TERMS OF SUGGESTING/LOBBYING/DEMANDING/TELLING people and/or organizations (hello, UofM Athletic Department) that Rickey Green should/must be *HONORED* at an upcoming UofM Men's Basketball Home game IN this upcoming 2008-08 Basketball Season!!!!**** IF ****AND**** ONLY IF anyone is further interested then please say so "out loud" and explicitly either on this forum or on Michigan.Rivals.com or Michigan.scout.com and leave some way that I can contact you. Only then will I provide my email address and/or home-phone #. Also, if anyone needs/wants or is interested in Contact info. regarding UofM Athletic Department Officials and the UofM Men's Basketball Coaching Staff (as well as some former Basketball players/current basketball players) and finally if anyone needs contact info./links to UofM Component Alumni Association organizations THEN ME KNOW ABOUT THAT AS WELL!!!! THANKS, SORRY FOR THE VERY LONG POST (I KNOW, WHAT ELSE IS NEW!!!!--LOL.), and PEACE. VERY SINCERELY, WOLVERINE FINALLY SOMEONE WHO “GETS IT”!!!! — regarding ****Rickey Green****!!!! I don’t agree with some aspects of his article (i.e. the “Recruiting Wars” article [can we say Dan Wetzel article {when he was at cbs.sportsline.com, ANYONE???!!!! ABOUT HOW this wasn't limited to Michigan: 7 Midwestern schools were involved -- among the more significant are Michigan, Michigan State, and Dayton} and Steve Fisher who 4-5 years ago was on a Michigan Sports Talk Radio show and he saying the Ed Martin was providing cash to MSU Basketball players in the early 1990's as well {hint: altruism WASN'T THE ONLY REASON that Steve Smith gave back to his Alma Mater -- i.e., he went to the John Wooden/Big Tobacco/Lloyd Carr--school of "how to use P.R. propoganda to make people forget about evil/shady things/indescretions that one has did or committed ;.))!!!! BTW, last time I checked Steve Smith, among others, was from Detroit, M.I.} and my favorite . . . Mateen Cleaves took money from Ed Martin {a former 'Core MaizeRager who was the second-most recent Superfan and who was in the Division of Kinesiology verifies this/can confirm this in terms of providing and knowing of the logistical, technical, "dirty"/"gory" details that document this!!!!} There is a reason why MSU didn't get busted and/or why the NCAA {Governing Body} looked the other way -- hint: its the same reason why the NCAA looked the other during the early 1970's when John Wooden/UCLA cheated {i.e. unlike our situation there actually was literally and specifically a Booster that ACTUALLY WAS STEERING PLAYERS TO COMMIT TO AND COME TO UCLA -- Ed Martin, contrary to popular belief was actually not a booster because he was directing or steering players to various multiple schools == in other words he could care less were a prospect went to school as long as that prospect payed him back in collateral -- implicitely meaning that the prospect made it "big time" to the NBA!!!!}!!!!]) but he is 110% spot on in his observation/analysis in regards to when Rickey Green played @Michigan (he played two seasons [i.e. he was a Junior College Transfer, which yours truly was also] from 1975-1977] under legendary UofM Men’s Basketball Head Coach [who is EXTREMELY UNDERRATED, IN MY BOOK -- BUT THAT IS ANOTHER SUBJECT FOR ANOTHER TIME!!!!] Johnny Orr [1968-1980: 12 Seasons]). Here is the specific quote from that article that mentions Rickey Green:

****The best basketball eras at both Michigan and Michigan State centered on homegrown players, with some particular exceptions for Michigan: Cazzie Russell in 1965, ^Rickey Green^ and John Robinson in 1976, and Juwan Howard in 1992 and 1993, all played in national championship games after being recruited out of Chicago.****

Also, on another note, as a request/favor (IT WOULD MEAN EXTREMELY A LOT TO ME!!!!) PLEASE, PLEASE . . .

****SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT RICKEY GREEN — IN TERMS OF SUGGESTING/LOBBYING/DEMANDING/TELLING people and/or organizations (hello, UofM Athletic Department) that Rickey Green should/must be *HONORED* at an upcoming UofM Men’s Basketball Home game IN this upcoming 2008-08 Basketball Season!!!!**** IF ****AND**** ONLY IF anyone is further interested then please say so “out loud” and explicitly either on this forum or on Michigan.Rivals.com or Michigan.scout.com and leave some way that I can contact you. Only then will I provide my email address and/or home-phone #. Also, if anyone needs/wants or is interested in Contact info. regarding UofM Athletic Department Officials and the UofM Men’s Basketball Coaching Staff (as well as some former Basketball players/current basketball players) and finally if anyone needs contact info./links to UofM Component Alumni Association organizations THEN ME KNOW ABOUT THAT AS WELL!!!! THANKS, SORRY FOR THE VERY LONG POST (I KNOW, WHAT ELSE IS NEW!!!!–LOL.), and PEACE.

VERY SINCERELY,
WOLVERINE

]]> By: Dylan http://www.umhoops.com/2008/10/02/thursday-links-notes-2/comment-page-1/#comment-7774 Dylan Thu, 02 Oct 2008 21:35:39 +0000 http://www.umhoops.com/?p=444#comment-7774 Sorry my mistake. My laptop died (again) in the middle of writing that post. I'll just say Vogrich is the 09 I'm most excited about. Sorry my mistake. My laptop died (again) in the middle of writing that post. I’ll just say Vogrich is the 09 I’m most excited about.

]]> By: Brick http://www.umhoops.com/2008/10/02/thursday-links-notes-2/comment-page-1/#comment-7773 Brick Thu, 02 Oct 2008 21:33:52 +0000 http://www.umhoops.com/?p=444#comment-7773 If Vogrich is our best chance at an '09, what happened to Barrett? I am pretty surprised he hasn't committed already. If Vogrich is our best chance at an ’09, what happened to Barrett? I am pretty surprised he hasn’t committed already.

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