Recruiting Notes: Push for 09?

Dylan Burkhardt
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First, an update on 2009 Illinois shooting guard Matt Vogrich. Illinois Prep Bullseye is reporting that UCLA offered shooting guard Matt Vogrich a scholarship.

Ordinarily we don’t make a big deal over a particular school extending a scholarship offer or receiving an official visit from a prospective recruit, but in the case of 6’4 shooting guard Matt Vogrich from Lake Forest High School in Lake Forest, IL we are making an exception. We cannot possibly overemphasize how significant we feel it is that UCLA has offered Vogrich a scholarship and even more importantly that they will receive Vogrich’s final official campus visit at the end of September.

Vogrich is really starting to blow up and this one looks like it will be a long battle. UCLA having the last visit certainly isn’t encouraging but Vogrich is a midwest kid so hopefully he stays close to home.

All things considered I’m starting to feel like Beilein will really try to use both of the two remaining scholarships in 2009 rather than bank one or two for 2010. While Beilein was at West Virginia from 2002-2007 he didn’t appear to be scared to use alot of scholarships year in and year out. Here are the number of commitments per year while Beilein was at West Virgina:

  • 2002: 4
  • 2003: 6
  • 2004: 3
  • 2005: 2
  • 2006: 7
  • 2007: 1
  • Avg of 3.8 recruits/year.

Here are the class numbers for the current kids that are here (by graduation year/after redshirts):

  • 2006: 2 (Gibson, Sims) [Amaker Class]
  • 2007: 3 (Wright, Harris, Grady) [Amaker/Beilein Class]
  • 2008: 4 (LLP, Douglass, Cronin, Novak)
  • 2009: 2 (Morris, Morgan)
  • Avg of 2.75 recruits/class.

2008 and 2009 were the first classes Beilein really recruited at Michigan, in his first two years at West Virginia he used 10 scholarships, compared to the 6 that he has used here at Michigan. Of course part of this has to do with class balance and what he inherited at West Virginia compared to in Ann Arbor. But when you see Beilein taking 6 or 7 guys in a class it doesn’t appear he is one to save scholarships for the future. I think it’s clear that Beilein is a firm believer that a bird in the hand is better than two in the bush.

Here’s what Beilein had to say about a year ago when asked about adding another recruit to the 2008 class (when it consisted of only Ben Cronin):

We would like to take an 08. And if we find two kids we like in 08, we’ll take them. We’re going to plan on seeing who we recruit first. If we don’t get what we think is the right fit, then we’ll move onto 09.

In the end he added two more players to the 2008 class and also signed Robin Benzing before that situation fizzled. And about a year ago I believe people were still wanting to bank scholarships for the 2009 in-state class that was “loaded” (nearly everyone in-state in the 09 class saw their rankings plummet this summer). The bottom line is that things like transfers, non qualifiers, decommitments and whatever else can happen.

The two targets in 2009 appear to becoming focal points are Vogrich and Crump. Their recruitments should become a little more clear after visits start picking up. Both have moved into the Rivals top 150 this summer and seem to be “Beilein fits”.

A couple other links on 2009 names, Kelly Olynyk is playing well in Canadian Nationals, Ethan Wragge ($) , and a new 2009 top 100 from Scout (no Morris, Vogrich at 100).

The issue is that there is a lot of positive movement in regards to the 2010 class. We have talked about 2010 power forward Nate Lubick a lot here and his relationship with the program and Darius Morris. Just today Lou Dawkins from Best of the Best Scouting reported that Michigan is looking “really good” for both Nate Lubick and 2010 combo guard Trey Ziegler.

There are 4 remaining scholarships for the next two years combined, how would you use them? Personally I take a combo forward and the best remaining player on the board in 2009. That way Beilein still has two to work with for 2010 and as we learned this year you never know what else can happen to make more scholarships available. Let’s hear your thoughts in the comments.

  • Reality Man

    What would I do..recruit and sign sharp shooters..especially the wing forward..i.e. Crump.

    I believe Crump will come to UM and then Vogrich is a toss up.

    JB wants to get to the tourney in 2010…Sims will be a senior and the current Frosh will have a year in the system and Morris and Morgan will add something in 2010.

    2010 or bust.

  • I don’t personally think 2010 is a make or break year, but it would be a nice step forward if we make the tourney that year. I’d say 2011 is the big year with Manny being a senior.

    I think I take one more at least for 2009. Crump looks like a great fit and Vogrich seems like a tossup that could go either way.

  • AC

    I don’t think you play games with the scholarships each year (like Reed Baker), but I think you need to use them. How long is the shelf life on a coach these days? To say you’re saving a scholarship in the HOPES that you can use it next year is probably not the way to go.

    If you can get a player in 2009 who will contribute, you do it.

    What I’d actually like to see a list of is players who left early the past ten years. That confirms the belief that you should stock your roster to protect yourself from that.

    Off the top of my head:
    2008 – Udoh
    2007 – Baker, Morris, Price, Smith
    Before that we didn’t have much talent to leave. During the Ellerbe era we had all of the thugs drop out (Moore, Queen, Searight, Crawford, Gaines). During the Fisher era we had a lot of turnover too for various reasons (Mitchell, White, Traylor, Taylor, etc.)

  • Mgobluesports

    I’d definitely pick up Givon, and if you can keep Vogrich (relatively close to home) then you definitely extend the offer.

    Besides Matt & Givon…I think there’s not much else to work in the 09 class.

    But in ’10 we DEFINITELY need to keep on Nate Lubick and…my gut says Zeigler will go for bigger and better things (IMO not UM Basketball)

  • Jimmy

    From what I’ve read on Zeigler, he seems intrigued by the idea of resurrecting Michigan Basketball. Michigan Basketball is a sleeping giant and bringing the program back to elite status could be extremely fulfilling. The Michigan brand is unparalleled, the only thing that is missing is a winning basketball team.

    Personally, I think the lure of playing close to home for one of the most respected programs (and we are, as a PROGRAM–im not talking about our recent success) and the opportunity to be one of the saviors gives us a good shot. It also helps that he isn’t the first quality player to buy in to this recruiting pitch. I think the fact that he knows he’ll have Sims, Harris, Morris, Morgan and a few other quality players makes it very possible.

  • Justin

    Are you Jimmy King?

    Seriously I love the way you are thinking but I’m just not going to get excited over the possibility of UM landing Zeigler. He has stated he wants to play for championships. I hope UM makes the tourney in ’10 but let’s for argument sake say they dont. That would be 12 straight years without an NCAA tourney apperence. It would be a tough sell especially to a kid who will have offers from most of the top programs in the country. Morris was a nice start for Beilein. A kid with a few high major offers. The next step is Lubick and Zeigler who will have offers from the likes of Duke, UCLA, Michigan State, Kansas, and ETC.

    Harris was an Amaker recruit. Also I like Jordan Morgan a lot but he’s not on the levek if Sims and Harris or even Morris. Those are Top 100 recruits. Morgans not in the Top 150. He will be a great role player.

  • Leslie Hoerwinkle

    Hope we can land Matt Vogrich. He would be a stud for us.