Comments on: More Recruiting Notes & Links

By: troublet0605

troublet0605 — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 09:23:09 +0000

I know winning will help our recruting, but don’t think it is the be all-end all. Case and point Illinois, they were in the national championship game 3 yrs. ago and because of Bruce Weber’s ineffective recruitment of top talent they haven’t been close to the national title since. I just don’t think Belien is that great of a recruiter but he makes up for it by being one of the best x and o coaches in the game. Like it still amazes me to this day that we hung 3/4 of a game with a Final 4 team in UCLA.

That being said I do believe we should be able to pull in some of the top talent in our state.

By: bluepanther

bluepanther — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 19:05:12 +0000

I’m guessing there are probably many similarities between hiring successful employees and successfully recruiting players. Being very deliberate and methodical now with recruiting decisions is probably a sign of future success for the program. Given that Beilein has had previous success in turning up gems where others overlooked them is encouraging (and this is from a guy who appreciates that Fisher did much more good than bad for M basketball).

By: umdcbball

umdcbball — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 18:14:23 +0000

I agree, Blue, the success of recruits individually and perhaps more importantly the success of the team will cause the highly rated guys to fall in line.

The way I see it, all we need is to get to the Tourny and the recruits will start to respect us again. And then Beilein will magically turn into a “good” recruiter!

By: Bluebufoon

Bluebufoon — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 13:57:06 +0000

Fisher, I tend to agree that it looks like Coach Beilein is more deliberate in the recruiting process than others. Who’s to say that won’t change once he’s totally rebuilt the U-M roster ? I think its way too early to question how this staff does things until we see how his recruits pan out. I’ve wondered if we waits on offering Jr.’s to make sure he isn’t more impressed with other players at that position ?

I know its early but each of the four players U-M has signed under staff has received positive reports for their play till this point. If Ben Cronin, Stuart Douglass and Zach Novak’s of the world consistenly become solid players under Beilein the Nate Lubick’s and Trey Ziegler will fall in line on their own.

By: Dylan

Dylan — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:34:26 +0000

Fisher you have a point but when it’s reported that Beilein “told a recruit he would give them an offer at the end of the summer” how is that much different than an offer?

I realize it is different but I just think the whole thing is very odd. Beilein must have a reason but it doesn’t make much sense to third party observer that we are all.

Seems very similar to the not giving out an official offer until the visit policy that was talked about some this spring with the 08 kids.

By: Fisher Forever

Fisher Forever — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:08:52 +0000

Brick and BlueBufoon, the problem is that it wasn’t just Iowa that offered before we did. It was MSU, Kentucky, and Indiana. Are we supposed to believe that Byrd wasn’t good enough for an offer when those schools gave him one, but now he is?

My whole point is that we’re giving enough advantages away to these other schools as it is. We can’t afford to give them any others.

By: Brick

Brick — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:08:48 +0000

I believe MSU is giving out 3 ships in 10 and one will be a big man. I don’t think they will take Zeigler and Byrd so I think one will be available even if they both wanted to go to MSU.

By: Dylan

Dylan — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 18:12:32 +0000

Yea, I think chances are best with Nate, that’s a safe statement.

Zeigler is easily one of the best players in the state right now and I don’t see anyway he isn’t a “plan A” for MSU. Maybe the numbers just don’t work out by position (I’m not 100% up on their schollie breakdown).

By: Justin

Justin — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 18:10:01 +0000

Yeah…I agree. Zeiglers not gonna care either way. I don’t think he is MSU’s plan A either. I think thats Byrd. I hope Zeigler comes to UM but damn with some of his quotes I don’t know. Out of Zeigler, Byrd, and Lubick I think the best shot to land is Lubick.

By: Dylan

Dylan — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:40:13 +0000

Not surprising. Very good get for MSU but wasn’t much of a secret. Kind of like D-Mo, I don’t know how much landing Appling will really hurt MSU for guys like Zeigler. Zeigler wants to win ’ships and if you want to win you need as much talent around you. I think Zeigler knows he is good enough to get his minutes just about anywhere. Hotboard soon, sorry guys.