Comments on: Catching Up http://www.umhoops.com/2008/07/30/catching-up-2/ An Unofficial University of Michigan Basketball Blog Sat, 20 Mar 2010 04:58:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Fisher Forever http://www.umhoops.com/2008/07/30/catching-up-2/comment-page-1/#comment-4045 Fisher Forever Fri, 01 Aug 2008 01:47:14 +0000 http://www.umhoops.com/?p=373#comment-4045 No, he's a better player. He's a better shooter, better rebounder, and he scores more. So, what exactly does Harris do better? We tend to overrate our own guys a lot. COble is probably one of the five best players in the Big Ten this season. No, he’s a better player. He’s a better shooter, better rebounder, and he scores more. So, what exactly does Harris do better? We tend to overrate our own guys a lot. COble is probably one of the five best players in the Big Ten this season.

]]> By: aaron http://www.umhoops.com/2008/07/30/catching-up-2/comment-page-1/#comment-4043 aaron Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:19:50 +0000 http://www.umhoops.com/?p=373#comment-4043 coble, better than harris? he may be more important to NW but he isn't the better player coble, better than harris? he may be more important to NW but he isn’t the better player

]]> By: Dylan http://www.umhoops.com/2008/07/30/catching-up-2/comment-page-1/#comment-4042 Dylan Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:48:47 +0000 http://www.umhoops.com/?p=373#comment-4042 I understand your point about the nit. I was posting last years results for reference. Also we will have to agree to disagree on nw. I understand your point about the nit. I was posting last years results for reference. Also we will have to agree to disagree on nw.

]]> By: Fisher Forever http://www.umhoops.com/2008/07/30/catching-up-2/comment-page-1/#comment-4041 Fisher Forever Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:33:32 +0000 http://www.umhoops.com/?p=373#comment-4041 Coble is better than anyone on our roster. Sorry, but that's the truth. Thompson was far better than any of our point guards, and Moore is a better shooter than anyone we have. Northwestern brought in two big men better than anyone we signed. Wish it wasn't so, but I expect them to be better than us this coming year. You just made my point about the NIT. 500 overall isn't going to get it done. It used to. If you finished with a winning record overall as a Big Ten team, you normally got an NIT bid. Doesn't work that way anymore. Coble is better than anyone on our roster. Sorry, but that’s the truth. Thompson was far better than any of our point guards, and Moore is a better shooter than anyone we have. Northwestern brought in two big men better than anyone we signed. Wish it wasn’t so, but I expect them to be better than us this coming year.

You just made my point about the NIT. 500 overall isn’t going to get it done. It used to. If you finished with a winning record overall as a Big Ten team, you normally got an NIT bid. Doesn’t work that way anymore.

]]> By: Dylan http://www.umhoops.com/2008/07/30/catching-up-2/comment-page-1/#comment-4033 Dylan Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:46:19 +0000 http://www.umhoops.com/?p=373#comment-4033 Also.. Conference Bids 4: ACC 3: Atlantic 10, Big 12, Missouri Valley 2: Big Ten, Pacific-10, SEC 1: Big East, Big South, Big West, Colonial, CUSA, MAC, Mid-Eastern, Mountain West, Northeast, Southland, Summit, SWAC, WAC Those are NIT bids. So 5th and 6th in the Big Ten. OSU 10-8, Minnesota 8-10. Both around 20-14. PSU was 7th and had a losing record (15-16 7-11) Also..
Conference Bids
4: ACC
3: Atlantic 10, Big 12, Missouri Valley
2: Big Ten, Pacific-10, SEC
1: Big East, Big South, Big West, Colonial, CUSA, MAC, Mid-Eastern, Mountain West, Northeast, Southland, Summit, SWAC, WAC

Those are NIT bids. So 5th and 6th in the Big Ten. OSU 10-8, Minnesota 8-10. Both around 20-14.

PSU was 7th and had a losing record (15-16 7-11)

]]> By: Dylan http://www.umhoops.com/2008/07/30/catching-up-2/comment-page-1/#comment-4032 Dylan Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:37:26 +0000 http://www.umhoops.com/?p=373#comment-4032 Northwestern brought in a better recruiting class AND has better returning players? Care to clarify? Northwestern brought in a better recruiting class AND has better returning players? Care to clarify?

]]> By: Fisher Forever http://www.umhoops.com/2008/07/30/catching-up-2/comment-page-1/#comment-4031 Fisher Forever Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:35:28 +0000 http://www.umhoops.com/?p=373#comment-4031 Apparently many of you don't keep up with things. A .500 record in a major conference doesn't likely get you an NIT berth anymore. They've changed the way those bids are handed out to take care of more mid-majors who have great regular seasons but miss out on the NCAA tournament because of their conference tourneys. Minnesota will be better than we will. So will PSU. Northwestern brought in a much better recruiting class than we did, and they have better players returning as well. Iowa should be down, and Indiana will be terrible. 9th place for Michigan, unfortunately. Apparently many of you don’t keep up with things. A .500 record in a major conference doesn’t likely get you an NIT berth anymore. They’ve changed the way those bids are handed out to take care of more mid-majors who have great regular seasons but miss out on the NCAA tournament because of their conference tourneys.

Minnesota will be better than we will. So will PSU. Northwestern brought in a much better recruiting class than we did, and they have better players returning as well. Iowa should be down, and Indiana will be terrible. 9th place for Michigan, unfortunately.

]]> By: umdcbball http://www.umhoops.com/2008/07/30/catching-up-2/comment-page-1/#comment-4030 umdcbball Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:00:31 +0000 http://www.umhoops.com/?p=373#comment-4030 I see us finishing with 15-17 wins. We were so bad last year and ended up with 10 wins, we can get to 13 wins this year by just winning against the garbage type teams we lost to last year. That means I'm seeing an increase of 2-4 wins over good teams this year. I don't think that is unreasonable. I think we get into the NIT finishing 7th in the Big Ten. I think Gibson will be the third leading scorer on the team. But only two guys (Sims and Harris) ave. over 10 a game. Ultimately, I think we'll have a bunch of guys giving us 5-9 a game and I think Gibson will be at the top of that list. Now my prediction for 2010 is a Big Ten title! With a 2 seed marking our triumphant return to the NCAAs! You can book it! I see us finishing with 15-17 wins. We were so bad last year and ended up with 10 wins, we can get to 13 wins this year by just winning against the garbage type teams we lost to last year. That means I’m seeing an increase of 2-4 wins over good teams this year. I don’t think that is unreasonable.

I think we get into the NIT finishing 7th in the Big Ten. I think Gibson will be the third leading scorer on the team. But only two guys (Sims and Harris) ave. over 10 a game. Ultimately, I think we’ll have a bunch of guys giving us 5-9 a game and I think Gibson will be at the top of that list.

Now my prediction for 2010 is a Big Ten title! With a 2 seed marking our triumphant return to the NCAAs! You can book it!

]]> By: Brick http://www.umhoops.com/2008/07/30/catching-up-2/comment-page-1/#comment-4021 Brick Thu, 31 Jul 2008 05:10:35 +0000 http://www.umhoops.com/?p=373#comment-4021 We should improve over last year and I think NIT should be expected and being on the bubble would be a pleasant surprise. Gibson will double his minutes from last year so with the same scoring per minute he should average around 11 ppg. Once LLP starts playing, he should average around 10 but I think he'll fall just short and leave us with three double digit scorers. And a note to Old Style: If Cronin is one of our leading scorers, we will not be .500, we will make the NCAAs. My guess is this is highly unlikely. Big men take a while to develop. Cronin will probably play around 13 minutes a game and average 4 or 5 ppg. If he can stay out of foul trouble and average 6 or 7 I would be ecstatic. We should improve over last year and I think NIT should be expected and being on the bubble would be a pleasant surprise.

Gibson will double his minutes from last year so with the same scoring per minute he should average around 11 ppg. Once LLP starts playing, he should average around 10 but I think he’ll fall just short and leave us with three double digit scorers.

And a note to Old Style: If Cronin is one of our leading scorers, we will not be .500, we will make the NCAAs. My guess is this is highly unlikely. Big men take a while to develop. Cronin will probably play around 13 minutes a game and average 4 or 5 ppg. If he can stay out of foul trouble and average 6 or 7 I would be ecstatic.

]]> By: Giddings http://www.umhoops.com/2008/07/30/catching-up-2/comment-page-1/#comment-4020 Giddings Thu, 31 Jul 2008 03:55:21 +0000 http://www.umhoops.com/?p=373#comment-4020 Wow, second question is a lot more intriguing than the first... For the first, I agree with AC - right around .500 and sneaking into the NIT. Hopefully they can win a couple games in the NIT and gain some tournament experience for the young guys. For the second, I'm torn between Gibson, LLP, A-Wright, Kelvin, and Stu (I know, I know, I'll stop before I name the entire roster)... but I'll go with the wild card and say Kelvin. Wow, second question is a lot more intriguing than the first…

For the first, I agree with AC – right around .500 and sneaking into the NIT. Hopefully they can win a couple games in the NIT and gain some tournament experience for the young guys.

For the second, I’m torn between Gibson, LLP, A-Wright, Kelvin, and Stu (I know, I know, I’ll stop before I name the entire roster)… but I’ll go with the wild card and say Kelvin.

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