Recruiting Notes: Novak, Douglass and Cohen

Dylan Burkhardt

Novak and Douglass look to have had solid games yesterday in the Indiana North/South game. I was not able to watch but Douglass was 3-9 (2-6) in the game for 8 points and Novak was 5-9 (3-6) for 13 points (Box score). Contrary reports also say Novak had closer to 17 or 18 points and this box score is a little off.

I was not able to watch (or listen to) the game but the best report I have seen was on the Rivals free board from poster blue_in_chicago who attended the game.

On Douglass:

First, Douglass. In the first half, he actually looked kind of bored out there. Had better energy in second half and played quite of bit of the lead guard in the second half. He clearly has EXCELLENT vision and can pass real well, particularly off the pick-and-roll. He actually made a couple of passes that surprised his teammates and they went the wrong way or dropped them. I would say Douglass is a definite 1/2 type of guard.

On Novak:

Much bigger and has big, strong shoulders. More of a 2/3 type of guy and much more physically ready to play in the Big Ten. It would not shock me if he was a starter next year if things go well with LLP and Manny moves to the 3 like the coaches plan to. He is great shooter and had some nice drives down the lane for a lay-up. Like Douglass, he capable of shooting it as soon as the ball crosses mid-court and that is just going to be big help to Manny, Grady and LLP. I think he will be an effective scorer all over the court and is capable of finishing inside b/c of his strength. BTW, I think both Novak and Douglass are about the same height (6-4″?) so they will fit in with Beilein’s desire for bigger guards.

There is a lot more there so check out the whole post, it seems pretty clear that at least one of Novak and Douglass will play a good amount of minutes this year because of how deficient this team is at shooting the three.

I also received a scouting report (thanks to Nick) from a coach in Jake Cohen’s high school conference on his game. Cohen looks like a plan B/backup type kid right now but certainly one to watch.

Cohen would not wow you right now some people are having a hard time thinking he is D1 vs the Lions he went for 11pts and 7 board but you need to get passed that and think what will this kid look like as a 20 year old man and that is why Jake has a chance. He is very skilled  but I will say not as skilled as the kid Dan Geriot from Springfield who is at Richmond right now. So I am not sold on him, if I was at St. Joes he would be on my list as a back up.

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  • Nick

    I’ll just clarify that this HS coach is a former SJU assistant, if I’m not mistaken, and he was a D3 head coach before he came to the HS (Penncrest) I went to. I didn’t play HS basketball (wasn’t tall/skilled/fast enough), but in middle school I did play in a summer camp with Geriot, and if you’ve ever seen Richmond play in the past 2 years, you know he’s good.

    I hope that helps the context. For anyone with a question, you can leave a comment or contact me directly.

  • Nick

    I thought I’d already posted this, but I guess not.

    I just want to clarify the quote for all of you, and if you have any further questions, comment or contact me directly.

    I didn’t play HS basketball (too short/slow/unskilled), but in middle school I did participate in a summer camp with Geriot. If you’ve seen Richmond play, you know he’s a key player on their team (they nearly beat Memphis early this season and were an unheralded part of the A10’s resurgence this year).

    This is the head coach of the HS (Penncrest), that I went to, which is in the same league as Conestoga (and Springfield). I think he was once an assistant at Saint Joe’s, and I know he was a D3 head coach before taking over at the PHS. He also an acquaintance of Beilein of some sort. I don’t quite know what their history is.

    Hope that helps. If you have any questions, just comment or email me.

  • Sorry Nick, your comments got caught in the spam filter.

  • BL

    I wonder what our chances would be of getting Taylor King from Duke. He is from Andy Brown’s school in Cali. He is leaving Duke and for those that dont know is a 6-7 ish gunner. I wonder how close the two are as well.

    If anyone has done any digging and has more info…please update!

  • a2matt

    Why is he leaving DUke? Yeah, he is a pretty sweet player.

  • a2matt

    Read mor into it on the Duke board.

    Mixed reactions. SOme arent bothered by his leaving, saying he was a bad defender, a 4 trying to play the 2, had bad shot selection, and wasnt making eough shots.

    Others, however, said he had unlimited range, hustled on the court, and was making shots because he would sit most of the game, and by the time he got in he was cold.

  • a2matt

    oops, just read Villanova nad Gonzaga are rumored to be schools of interest.

  • a2matt…eaving_Duke.htm

    So USC, UCLA, UNC, Gonzaga, or Villanova?

  • Link didnt work but check out the few posts in this thread by socalgoblue. He knows what he is talking about and I trust him on this one.

  • a2matt

    Which link?

  • “…eaving_Duke.htm”

    it got truncated with …s

  • Ky Fox

    I do not think King would be a good idea for UM. Its been proven that JB really looks into a players character when recruiting them. And just from watching a few Dukes games I didnt get a real good vibe from King! But you never know! And you never know about him giving UM the time of day either. Someone in another post was mentioning about how JB’s system could be a benifactor in changing the ways in the big ten! A style of play that might end up turing a few heads as well as looking more and more appealing to players! Part of JB’s problem is that its new!! Its not as proven as say a Calhoun, or a Olson, or roy williams type team! JB runs things a little differently than say… the old dulldrums of an izzo team! Not saying izzo’s way doesnt work but it can handcuff players at times to!

  • a2matt
  • BL

    Quick question….
    Does Crean possibly going to Indiana make Jamil Wilson more likely to play for:
    Indiana / Marquette / Michigan / Other???

  • Don’t know about Jamil but I think this would definetely help Wisconsin first and foremost and then IU because of the relationship that Jamil has with Crean.

    We’ll have to see. I wonder if Crean can hold onto the 08 commits @ IU?

  • old fan

    Crean to IU is not good for the league. We need some new blood and some new philosophies. The talent is draining from the mid west. Bo Ryan and Tom Izzo have a great system that makes their kids better and maximize the teams output in most years. However there is a larger price to pay and the whole league suffers by the pace of the play. If I am Beilien I carry a chart that shows the average possessions per game his WVU team had compared to MSU/ Wiscy. How are kids going to shine playing 4/5ths of a game? There are a handful of NBA prospects in the league. Memphis has more midwestern recruits that are NBA bound than our entire league (2 – Douglass Roberts (detroit) and Rose (Chicago))

    Crean just perpetuates this trend. At least it isn’t Bennett who would have been worse. Painter is in this same mold and we will be stuck for years to come until something changes.

    These things are cyclical. The door is wide open for someone with creativity to change the Big Ten, hopefully that is Beilien.

  • Ky Fox

    it would be interesting to know if a lot of the high profile guys from detroit…ie roberts, crawford, hairston, the otheer crawford at IU…would they have maybe had UM a lot higher or even picked UM if JB had been here for a while longer! The flip side of the whole nba pool in the big ten is Beilein i think does a great job of finding guys that have a lot of potential and not really being considered as an NBA prospect and builds players skill sets to the point that they are indeed NBA potential! Examples are pittsnogle and joe alexander! There are a ton of nba players that do not come into college as already NBA players(1 and dones) but to be very sucessfull in the tournament you have to be balanced. You need shooters, you need 1 or 2 guys that are athleticly NBA ready, a good big guy. Its all about balance…a melting pot of players if you will!
    I think Beilein has the style of play and has the ability to develop players to really make an impact in the Big Ten! Its a very different but appealing style!

  • Ky Fox

    once area players find out just how enjoyable and how much better they can get under JB’s up and down yet controlled style…I believe a lot of local, high profile kids will consider UM as theyre school of choice!!

  • old fan

    We need balance and players. The league is so barren right now. Just remember back to the days when we had 2 to 3 of the top five players in the country. We always had top talent in the Big Ten. Big Dog Robinson, Bobby Jackson, Steve Smith, Calbert Cheaney, not to mention the great Michigan and Illinois teams of the late 80’s. You can go back as far as you want and you won’t find a dearth of talent like we have now. Pick a time period and we always had all americans.

    My only argument here is that the talent is so bare that either good talent or a good system could change things drastically. It is ripe for a change and Beilien could be that guy. However, the whole league is suffering because of the lack of creativity and until someone like Beilien has success, we will have more tourney’s like we just had.

  • Ky Fox

    i agree! I think what we need also is a high profile assistant to replace mike jackson if he is indeed leaving! Someone like jalen or even the guy from arkansas! Even if that assistant was here to just recruit those 1 to 2 athletic players that seem to dart out of detriot for other schools…if he were hired for that reason alone i think it would be worth having him on the sidelines! Then Beilein could do the rest of his recruiting! Obviously a rose recxruit would ultimatley have to go through JB but there are some players that leave detriot that even JB would be foolish to pass up! You mean to tell me that a guy like malik hairston, or cdr wouldnt flourish in JB’s program?? I think they would! But then there will be some players that just wont fit into the puzzle…but the bottom line is we should at least have a couple of those guys on the team just about every year! Its proven that to go deep in the tournament you need 1 to 2 guys who are NBA potential!

  • Ky Fox

    and there is no reason we shouldnt be able to grab a couple of those guys….we have a hotbed of talent 20 minutes away!